While SANZAR ponders whether any steps should be taken against Stormers captain Schalk Burger and coach Allister Coetzee, statistics have been released that reveal just how silly they were for criticising match referee Craig Joubert.
From SA Referees website
Johan Botes, a South African-based SANZAR Director, confirmed that a decision whether to charge Burger and Coetzee for their ungracious post-match outbursts – following their 17-25 Super 14 Final loss to the Bulls at the weekend – will be taken on Tuesday.
The Stormers captain was scathing with his comments of the match official.
“It was pretty disappointing, I thought the Bulls and us were playing two different sets of breakdown rules,” Burger said, adding: “We couldn’t get momentum going, which was really disappointing.”
Burger later repeated his attack on the referee’s rulings, claiming that the penalties against his team had an influence on the outcome of the game.
“Yes, I was unhappy about it to be honest, otherwise I would have kept my mouth and not complained like I did on the field,” Burger said when quizzed about it in the post-match media conference.
The remarks of the Stormers coach, Coetzee, will now also come under scrutiny, after he also expressed his disappointment in Joubert’s officiating.
“It was an area where the game was won and lost,” Coetzee told a post-match media briefing.
However, stats revealed on Monday show that the referee, Joubert, was more that just equal and fair in his handling of the match.
André Watson, the South African Rugby Union refereeing boss, said it was not a case of referees not being able to handle criticism.
“Of course we have to take it on the chin,” Watson said of occasions when match officials get it wrong.
“However, this is not criticism,” Watson told rugby365.com.
“If what is being quoted in the media is true – that there are two sets of rules and one team was coached – then the insinuation is that the referee was bias or was cheating.
“I simply can’t accept that. I can’t accept that we say things like that.”
The referees boss said he decided to go have a look at the match closely and – using their Fairplay programme – spent four hours looking at the tackle/ruck situations in the Final.
“The Stormers carried the ball 85 times,” Watson told rugby365.com, adding: “The Bulls took it into a tackle situation – which became a ruck or just stayed a tackle – 82 times.
“Out of that the Stormers were awarded seven penalties and six penalties were awarded to the Bulls.
“In those same phases the referee spoke 25 times to the Stormers and spoke to Bulls players on 28 occasions – never once did he repeat a warning.
“I find it strange that that is labelled as ‘coaching’.
“In fact these are staggering stats that show how incredibly fair and accurate he [referee Craig Joubert] was. I just felt the facts should be on the table.”
Watson also confirmed that a formal review of Joubert’s performance would be conducted by SANZAR bosses on Tuesday, but said he, Watson, has already looked an analysed Joubert’s performance.
He admitted there were a few errors.
“In my opinion he had a phenomenal first half,” Watson said, adding: “Obviously there are mistakes.
“One of those could place a question mark over Bryan Habana’s intercept try. Let me make it clear, Bryan did nothing wrong, but what happened before – No.22 [replacement Tim Whitehead] came in at the side and deliberately slowed down the ball, giving the Bulls a bad ball. That’s a blatant transgression that was overlooked.
“There was another occasion when [Bulls flank Deon] Stegmann stole a ball, but the slow-motion analyses showed he was illegal.
“After having worked through all those incidents I found three errors, out of 167 tackle/ruck situations.
“I think that is great and we can be happy with his performance.
“I know, it doesn’t matter how I put this, people will say: ‘Look, Watson is covering for his referee again’. I am well aware that I will be criticised, but it is important that we put the facts out there and not just opinions.”
By Jan de Koning
sareferees.co.za
Blouste, I think you know me by now – you will not see me shooting my mouth off about my team’s chances for next year. Of course, I do not expect you to do the same.
@ fender:
Thanks, I’ll keep that in mind 😉
30 @ Puma:
Glad you enjoyed… 🙂
Jinne Saint…. eishhhhhhhh laat ek liewer niks sê nie….
Bafana SWC squad:
Goalkeepers:
Itumeleng Khune (Kaizer Chiefs), Moeneeb Josephs (Orlando Pirates), Shu-Aib Walters (Maritzburg United)
Defenders:
Matthew Booth (Mamelodi Sundowns), Lance Davids (Ajax Cape Town), Siboniso Gaxa (Mamelodi Sundowns), Bongani Khumalo (SuperSport United), Tsepo Masilela (Maccabi Haifa, Israel), Aaron Mokoena (Portsmouth, England), Anele Ngcongca (Genk, Belgium) Siyabonga Sangweni (Golden Arrows), Lucas Thwala (Orlando Pirates)
Midfielders:
Kagisho Dikgacoi (Fulham, England), Thanduyise Khuboni (Golden Arrows), Reneilwe Letsholonyane (Kaizer Chiefs), Teko Modise (Orlando Pirates), Steven Pienaar (Everton, England) MacBeth Sibaya (Rubin Kazan, Russia) Siphiwe Tshabalala (Kaizer Chiefs)
Forwards:
Surprise Moriri (Mamelodi Sundowns), Katlego Mphela (Mamelodi Sundowns), Siyabonga Nomvethe (Moroka Swallows), Bernard Parker (FC Twente, Netherlands).
Dropped:
Rowen Fernandez (Arminia Bielefeld, Germany)
Benedict McCarthy (West Ham United, England)
Franklin Cale (Mamelodi Sundowns)
Innocent Mdledle (Mamelodi Sundowns)
Bryce Moon (PAOK, Greece)
@ grootblousmile:
Dit is Saint , hy like van stir julle voer die man. Ja maar ons almal kla. So laat die Stormers maar kla, niks gaan tog verander nie.
Gaan loer na lekker positiewe lees stof onder die Super 14 dropdown box, daai page was nou lekker om saam te stel.
http://www.rugby-talk.com/?page_id=12956
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Must be suprise selections…I dont know one of them 😯
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@ Blouste:
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skerp boet skerp.
ons moet nou ons Orlando broers ook ondersteun. Jy beter hulle leer ken, ek sal die team mooi opstel onder die Soccer dropdown box.
33 – Blouste, Yip it was great, probably ate too much and had too much red wine… 😀 But that are what holidays are for.
Great weather too. 28 during the day and 25 at night. Now back to Joburg and it is really cold. At least the sun is out. Next week back to Umhlanga. So going to be a hectic week.
35 – Super, Jeepers I need to get into the soccer. Don’t even know the names there. Am supporting Bafana have my shirt and flag, but need to get to know the team quick.
superbul @ 38
yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehaaaaaaaaaaaa!!
thats the attitude bru!!
@ Puma:
Hi, Puma , i read you had a great time, glad but jealous. 😀
Cant remember did you join our SWC superbru?
Pool code: lardpays
42 – Super, Yip had a really great time. Nice to just chill on a holiday like that.
Yes, joined your soccer bru pool yesterday. Now we must all get behind our soccer team. I bought my shirt a few weeks back and a car flag. Plenty have flags all over here where I live in Joburg.
Saw Roy Keane on the same plane back from Mauritius as us. He had his whole family with him. He must be here to watch the English side. He played from Manchester United was their captain at the time.
@ Puma:43 – from = for
I’ll have no problem remembering that one name though – Suprise 🙂
@ Ashley:41 – Ash, I agree too. We must all get behind our soccer team now.
@ Ashley:
Ashley my friend, your team played well in the final. But the Bulls watched your game videos and learned to tackle. Do you agree we tackled better than the Stormers in the final?
Wel now its time to build up momentum again for the Wales test.
Did you watch Superrugby last night?
Peter de Villiers is a GEM. He said all the right things and i was impressed how well he communicates. Certainly a big improvement. I just waited for some of his wisdom, and yes at the end i liked his last sentences.
He said.
Die walliesers se ons is ryp vrugte en reg om gepluk te word. Well ons is nie net pere en appels nie maar ook turksvye, ek wag om te sien hoe hulle dit gaan eet.
Seker nie woordeliks korrek aangehaal nie maar dit was sy boodskap. Skitterent, man die ou bring kleur aan ons taal en afrigting. Hy breek altyd die spanning met sy segoed.
I Love Peter
@ Blouste: Blouste 😀
super @ 41
i also joined the pool!!
superBul
Dont speak about love to openly…remember, you are afterall talking to a Stormers supporter..
Always keep it real…
Remember…I’m watching you 😉
super @ 47
“I Love Peter”
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een van die bestes wat ek van hom gehoor het, was na verlede jaar se EOY tour …. hy moes toe (heel onverwags) die sleutels ontvang vir die trok wat die bekers deur die hele land sou neem en het net droog opgemerk: “dis wat gebeur as jy ñ toer verloor … jy word ñ lorrie drywer” 😆
ekt gedog dit was classic!!
blouste @ 50
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@ superBul:47 – Super what does (turksvye) mean?
Ek het ook die pool gejoin, maar o moer ek belowe niks, ek het nie ‘n clue wat in die game aangaan nie 😯
@ Puma:
prickly pears
@ superBul:
hope i am right 😆
@ Puma:
Green fruit with thorns on – also known as ( prickly pear )
55 – O, I see 😳
55 – Super……..hahahaha. Then that was funny. PdV a way with words….. 😀
Om op te som: daar het ‘n Storm gedreig in die kaap, en het hom vir ‘n paar maande uitgewoed, maar toe hy die binneland bereik (Orlando), toe was daar net ‘n sagte poep oor, wat nie die Bul se hare eers deurmekaar kon waai nie. DE END … 😉
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