Oregan Hoskins
Race has become another sore point for the South African Rugby Union (SARU) when transformation in rugby was discussed in Parliament on Tuesday, according to reports.
Some MPs complained about the “white faces” in SARU’s delegation that presented to the portfolio committee on sport and recreation.
EFF MP Pebane Moteka asked: “If you do not even your leadership can transform, how are you transforming the sport?”
Solly Malatsi from the DA then tweeted that Saru’s presentation reminded him of “the unbearable whiteness of the state of South African rugby “.
SARU president Oregan Hoskins, who led the delegation, asked MPs to confirm that he was not white.
“Honourable members, look at us and say we are all white men.
“As someone who grew up under apartheid, I know it is politically correct to refer to myself as black. Sometimes I just do not understand,” he said and shook his head.
He said if they were to play political games about who is black and who is not, it leaves them in a very different minefield.
“But I forgive people who think I’m white.”
SARU’s delegation was made up of 4 black and 4 white members.
“In SARU we try to do the right thing.
“I have to look at a white player and say we have to replace you with a black player because of transformation. It’s part of the job, but we will try to maintain a balance between competitiveness and transformation.”
Hoskins added that transformation would take time.
He said they did not want to put a black person on the team because of the colour of his skin.
“We want to develop black players in order to compete on the same level as white players.”
ANC MP and committee chair, Beauty Dlulane, said more needed to be done for transformation in rugby, especially in rural areas.
Sport24
@ MacroBull:
What is an underhanded comment? And what other thread did I make it on?
In my opinion, which according to you is wrong irrespective of what it is, Pocock standing up for his beliefs, and this guy from the EFF standing up for his beliefs, is one and the same.
Both are willing to put the self out there for their cause.
So, if I understand your viewpoint correctly, and please do explain where I’m wrong, those who didn’t agree with Pocock as you did, were wrong, in your respected viewpoint.
@ gunther:
Please refer to post 22 😆
27 @ MacroBull:
“You compare it to ANYONE standing up for their beliefs, including racists.”
In your opinion they are racists, in their opinion anyone standing against transformation and quotas are also racists.
Who’s opinion is right and who’s opinion is wrong?
@ gunther:
How’s the music business?
http://www.i-mockery.com/bad-albums/gunther/
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@ Victoriabok:
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@ nortie:
I stood up for you the other day regarding just this… That we are entitled to our own opinions, because thats what it is especially when we cant base it on facts.
The problem i have is that you regularly tend to spill over into other threads and make a gesture to a debate elsewhere with a swinging nortie. You hold a grudge worse than a woman.
You came in here and said
“One can’t cheer the one and vilify the other”
So you putting these two distant i
Opinions on the same pedastal… Thats just insane. I wont say your wrong… But what logic are you using when you think of things like that? 😆
<bVictoriabok wrote:
Haha daar is n spoof band uit die kaap daai ou lyk soos die een sanger.
http://www.watkykjy.co.za/2010/11/die-np-projek-ek-is-dynamite/
MacroBull wrote:
I beg to differ….
MacroBull on 24 March 2015 at 15:54 SAST
@ nortie:
JY is nie reg nie.
As I mentioned in post 20, I have been made aware of what certain bloggers feel about me, and I have no problem with that, to each his own.
I won’t, start saying ja en amen just to be with the “in crowd”
So I fully expect that every comment I make will be regarded as garbage and look forward to see it being taken apart.
Alreeds begint die rimpel sny;
oor alles hou die wurm wag
en mof en bas is al wat sy:
Want Swart en Boef,
die hoogste troef
oor ál wat roer,
is SkoppensBRU(r).
@ nortie:
Lol no… That was a response to YOU saying your right.
nortie on 24 March 2015 at 15:53 SAST
@ MacroBull:
Presies, whatever, want hoe op aarde kan julle verkeerd wees en ek reg wees…..wat n travesty.
Dit kan mos nooit wees nie
You brought it up and i replied… I still didnt say your opinion is wrong.
Epic quote out of context fail.
nortie wrote:
Your trully welcome to your opinion as i have been saying all along… But its different when you purposely attempt to derail topics with alterior motives.
@ MacroBull:
My opinie pis so baie mense af, dit moet mos verkeerd wees.
😆
We are surely not going to agree about divisive LGBT, political, transformation or even sporting issues – best we can do is show some tolerance for other views.
But surely most of us (whatever our convictions and inclinations) can find common ground when it comes to the luscious, delectable artichoke?
Artisjok
Laatnag vleg ’n skielike ritseling
My stadig los
Uit swaar arms van my geliefde,
Donker suster van my dood.
Dou sak heeltemal te vroeg vanjaar
Op my grasperk en plante neer.
Takke en blare ril nog waarskuwend
As ek deur die wind na my groentetuin beur.
My flitslig skok die grootste plant
Wat haar lang, silwergrys blare vou,
Ritselend toe, dig
Om die geheime, pers, glinsterende vrug.
Raak my aan, asseblief,
Raak my nie nou al aan nie.
Uit hierdie bitter grond gebore
Tussen windhande wat my wil klief.
Ek vou die stingels versigtig weg,
Pluk ‘n paar blare en proe,
Huiwerig om my tong,
Donkergroen, suursoet parfuum van die nag.
Net een maal het ek jou so sien lê
Ná ‘n laatnagmaal van artisjok.
Jou hande was lig oor jou borste gevou,
Jou bene terughoudend gekruis.
Laag vir laag het ek jou afgeskil
Met ‘n versigtige, moedelose tong,
Tot by die diep, geheime, bitter vrug
Wat weer terugtrek tussen jou dye.
Deur strelende hande van jou geliefde,
Jou lokkende suster van die slaap
Kon ek hoor: raak my aan, asseblief,
Raak my nooit meer aan nie;
te lig om ’n groen hart finaal te klief.
© H.J. Pieterse (uit: Die burg van hertog Bloubaard, Tafelberg, 2000)
nortie wrote:
Nortie dis eerlikwaar nie die inhoud van jou opinie nie want ek kan dit respekteer, maar hoe jy dit partykeer oordrae.
@ MacroBull:
Nie dat my manier altyd beter is of “reg” is nie. Ek kan dit aanvaar en daaroor kom.
@ Victoriabok:
Lekker I am printing money
@ MacroBull:
Ek sien so….dis my attitude wat suig volgens sekeres.
Ek het probeer om n afspraak te maak by a Doktor wat werk aan mense wat dose is en attitude en anger management klasse aanbied, maar blykbaar kan hy my eers oor 4 weke sien, volgens die receptionist het hy n high profile klient wat hy eers moet help……wie de hel is Bismarck Du Plessis en wat maak hom so belangrik?
@ Angostura:
Sad maar goed.
@ nortie:
Jyt self opgebring dat jy n doos is 😆 fok weet hoekom.
Ek sal nou nie so ver gaan nie haha
One can’t blame a gynaecologist for being discerning … 🙂
Nite
gunther wrote:
Better watch out for the groupies then
Angostura wrote:
😆
I think many arguements have been had about the meaning of a poem as well.
Angostura wrote:
Praat ons hier van dieselfde ding?
Is an artichoke always an artichoke Dr. Freud? 😛
Viva the Brumbies, viva!!!
Phambili my “lilly-white” Brumbies, phambili!!!
Take your racist affirmative action quota system & shove it you-know-where.
And the same goes for your ‘Transformation’ “targets”
BrumbiesBoy wrote:
You have just managed to upset both the pro-transformation and the Pro-Pocock camps at the same time 😆
nortie wrote:
There you go again 😆
He didnt upset anyone
@ MacroBull:
So not even a smiley face can convey a joke.
I must really “suig” at the written word as well as the rest
I wonder if this MP & committee chair Beauty Dlulane is any relation of Tim’s, an aunty perhaps?
Australia 328 after the 50 with Finch 81 (116), Smith 105 (93) and Mitchell Johnson with a blistering 27 not out (9) doing the most damage. Pitch seems a bit 2 paced so India might struggle to get it. Could still turn into a thriller though.
Go Aus!
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