Springboks (18) 47 / 13 (13) World XV (Final Score)
The South African Springboks and a World XV team did battle in the June Internationals at
Newlands, Cape Town at 17:00 SA Time (15:00 GMT).
This was the live match discussion Article.
The match was broadcast LIVE on SuperSport 1, SHD & M-Net on TV in SA.
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Scorers:
Springboks:
- Penalties – Morné Steyn (3)
- Drop Goals – 0
- Tries – Bryan Habana (1), Bakkies Botha (1), Bismarck du Plessis (2), Johan Goosen (1), Willie le Roux (1)
- Conversions – Morné Steyn (2), Johan Goosen (2)
World XV:
- Penalties – James O’Connor (2)
- Drop Goals – 0
- Tries – Alistair Hargreaves (1)
- Conversions – James O’Connor (1)
Teams:
South Africa: 15 Willie le Roux, 14 Cornal Hendricks, 13 JP Pietersen, 12 Frans Steyn, 11 Bryan Habana, 10 Morné Steyn, 9 Ruan Pienaar, 8 Duane Vermeulen, 7 Willem Alberts, 6 Francois Louw, 5 Victor Matfield (Captain), 4 Bakkies Botha, 3 Jannie du Plessis, 2 Bismarck du Plessis, 1 Tendai Mtawarira
Replacements: 16 Schalk Brits, 17 Gurthrö Steenkamp, 18 Coenie Oosthuizen, 19 Flip van der Merwe, 20 Schalk Burger, 21 Fourie du Preez, 22 Johan Goosen, 23 Lwazi Mvovo.
World XV: 15 James O’Connor, 14 Drew Mitchell, 13 Rene Ranger, 12 Wynand Olivier, 11 Hosea Gear, 10 Matt Giteau (Captain), 9 Rory Kockott, 8 Roger Wilson, 7 Steffon Armitage, 6 Mamuka Gorgodze, 5 Alistair Hargreaves, 4 Juandré Kruger, 3 Carl Hayman, 2 Craig Burden, 1 Sona Taumalolo
Replacements: 16 Andrew Hore, 17 Schalk Ferreira, 18 Pat Cilliers, 19 Joe Tekori, 20 Alexandre Lapandry, 21 Jimmy Cowan, 22 François Trinh-Duc, 23 Benson Stanley.
Date: Saturday 7 June
Venue: Newlands, Cape Town
Kick-Off: 17:00 SA Time (15:00 GMT)
Expected weather: Partly cloudy with a high of 19 C, dropping to 11 C
Referee: George Clancy (Ireland)
Assistant Referees: Lourens van der Merwe (South Africa), Quinton Immelman (South Africa)
TMO: Deon van Blommestein (South Africa)
Timekeeper: Albert Mocke (South Africa)
@ grootblousmile:
Daar is natuurlik negatiewe goed, maar as ons kan nie elke keer die positiewe goed ignoreer nie, wats die punt van rugby kyk dan?
Was lekker om te kyk, ou manne nog heel chapperig
Heel goed vir ‘n eerste outing, groot games begin volg naweek
421 @ MacroBok:
Janee wragtig, Bokke het heelwat beter gedoen vandag as wat ek gedink het hulle gaan doen.
Skrums is ‘n probleem, ‘n grote… maar daar kan daaraan gewerk word met tyd, Bokke is maar weer net ‘n paar dae bymekaar gewees voor hierdie game.
Sommige mense kan net nie positief wees nie, dis teen hulle hele wese en gestel en persoonlikheid.
Ons het goeie voorspelerspel vandag gesien en goeie verdediging en great aanvallende spel, goeie geballanseerde game deur die Bokke!
Obviously is daar goedjies wat pla… maar ek dink die Bokke kan baie gelukkiger voel vandag met vergelyking hoe die All Blacks moet voel!
@ grootblousmile:
Ek dink verseker Heyneke kan voel hyt gewen vandag… maar hulle moet besef volgende week gaan baie moeiliker wees, verla in die scrums.
@ grootblousmile:
@423 – good comments. Hope any questions Hm had, have been answered, at least partially, today.
424 @ MacroBok:
Ja, vandag was ‘n barometer… van waar die Bokke sal moet verbeter.
Maar jy is reg, Heyneke het rede om vanaand gemakliker te slaap.
Hierdie Bokke wen is selfs dalk beter as wat die Wallabies teen Frankryk gedoen het vandag.
425 @ GoBokkeAndIreland:
I hope so too GB&I!
@ MacroBok:
I am not negative my friend. I love the Boks as much as You. I just want a team that can DOMINATE the All Blacks like they do to us. We can do it, there is enough great players here. NZ is way smaller than us, they have fewer players and they dont deserve to be feared by us.
If we adopt the best principles , the thing they do. We CAN take our rightful place back, then we will hear them bitch and moan when the shoe is on the other foot.
If you accept to be 2nd best OK , its your right.
I will use THIS platform to air my view. I also praise when it is deserved
@ superBul:
I obviously do not accept being second best, but I choose to celebrate a good win when we do, want us to beat the all blacks more than anything, but we have achieved something great over the last few years that we are not losing to crap teams lie Scotland (touch wood)
Be happy for the win man, there is enough in my life to be bitter about, I am surely not going to be upset we beat the world xv by only 34 points.
grootblousmile wrote:
Nou moenie worry as ek en ander ook hul menings lug nie.
Magtie man ek is nie aleen in kritiek nie en jy hoef nie elke keer alles wat ons se kritiseer nie.
Jy het ook al meer krities geraak. In die begin was alles wat hy gedoen het onaanraakbaar, jy het hom verwoed verdedig.
Ek sien uit na 3 goeie wenne in die volgende 3 toetse. Ek hoop net ons kan dit in perspektief sien. Is dit teen verswakte spanne? En bou ons op of probeer ons maar net om almal n kans te gee.
Kyk dit kan seker ook werk deur die Hoogste gesag gelukkig te hou deur 10 nuwe bokke te maak met die meerderheid in lyn met die vereistes. Dan sal ek verstaan, of dalk moet ek maar net my oe oopmaak, dit is dalk presies wat gebeur.
Maar dat ons beste beskikbare span vandag gespeel het. Bollie
Do not forget the Argentina / Ireland Test, tonight at 20:40 SA time, the Live Game Article is already up and running for that one!
Bokke het my baie pleasantly surprise.
Op stadiums die week was ek nie seker of ons sou wen of verloor nie, maar was baie bly oor hoe ons gespeel het, agterlyn het gelyk of hulle enige rede soek om te hardloop, nie so baie geskop soos wat ek gedink het hulle sou nie.
N baie belowende begin tot die jaar, net op die grand aanhou en ons sal al hoe beter hoe meer ons saamspeel
Baie gelukkig met die uitslag, en met die wyse wat ons gewen het.
Die skrums het op tye gelol, maar ons weet die voorry en Alberts is moeg en oorspeel, so dit was nie n skok om te sien dat hulle op tye sukkel nie, maar hulle was nie swak nie, het nog steeds goeie werk gedoen
Not bad at all.
Cowan is a twat.
Pienaar Janine dup and guthro are nowhere.
You can pick any Backline you want they will go nowhere with Pienaar at 9.
430 @ superBul:
Ag jy praat mos nou loutere kak man, niemand was nog ooit onaanraakbaar in my oë nie.
Genade maar jy kom voor as ‘n geweldige suurknol die dag wat jy jou hoed oor jou oë trek en beginne kreun en steun.
Is dit omdat ek dink Snorrie was ‘n dom, komiese drol, wat nie geweet het wat om met die media aan te vang nie en heeltyd bereid was om twak te praat in plaas daarvan om te coach?
433 @ gunther:
Jimmy Cowan deserved his Yellow for those stomps, repeatedly, on Duane Vermeulen’s arm… what a tosspot he turned out to be today!
I see you also agree with my assessment of Ruan Pienaar, Jannie du Plessis & Gurthro Steenkamp.
@ grootblousmile:
And then the flattie to the face.
Pienaar is constipated at 9.
There are half a dozen nines who are better.
blikemmer check die mcguyver resies op SS8
@ gunther:
Indeed, Ruan is one dimensional
Rienach, Kockott and Hougie is ahead of him on the pecking order.
But he knows the calls….
I believe everyone here is carried away for no reality touch
That was a meaningless, worthless game, the World XV only played with a full intent the first 15 minutes or so, their backs such a Giteau, Mitchel, Cockott or O’Connor can do much more than what they showed us.
I advocate cautious, trim your enthusiasm a bit 😉
Saying that, the AB forwards were molested this morning by the Poms, Kaino, Messam McCaw were manhandled by Robshow, Morgan and Haskel, the ruthless ABs selectors will bring better players in soon!
The Wallabies won against a disinterested, indifferent Frogs Team, it’s difficult to gauge their progress under McKenzie, my guess is they’ll get better
@ Hondo:
mate you said a whole lot there without saying anything at all.
most of us are happy with the way we won because earlier in week the feelings were that we are going to kick everything away and all doom and gloom, but the springboks gave us a good attacking game.
in short we are celebrating the positives and noting the negatives like the scrum and penalties conceded at ruck time.
Everyone knows that wales will be a much tougher contest and we all accept it, no one has gotten carried away.
To put this win in perspective, we can use the SuperBru predictions.
97% of the people taking part picked the Bokke, but the score surprised.
South Africa won by 34. 97% of players picked this win.The average pick was South Africa by 12.
I think most players were also expecting either more from the World XV, or a more conservative game by SA, with the average margin being 12 points.
It’s fair to say that the Bokke exceeded expectations, and that is great.
Compared to the AB’s where they got a smaller margin than expected.
New Zealand won by 5. 99% of players picked this win.The average pick was New Zealand by 12.
@ nortierd:
Those guys on SW must be livid that the Bu… eh boks won yesterday 😀
Lol
I am very pleased that my take on the game was completely wrong.
Even with Ruan there, we still had intent to play more than kick, so good for him too, and one of his wobbly kicks led to a try as well.
Think all the guys had positive moments, even Jannie, that wobbly kick led to him giving a wobbly pass, and JP fixed it with that between the legs pass.
@ nortierd:
I feel bad for ruan he had a bad first half but started the second like a house on fire… then they take him off after 10 or so minutes
@MB
Maybe we must accept that he is solid, without being flashy.
I realize that Reinach and McCloud for instance do much more on the field, but look how even they were castigated on SW after the loss to the Stormers. Ruan might not score the tries Reinach does, but he makes less mistakes. It’s difficult to decide whether one wants a guy who can win you a game, but also lose you one, or a guy who won’t lose you a game and just does the job.
HM is very big on structures, so we know who he will go for
@ nortierd:
I still back Jano Vermaak, that guy leaving south africa and the Bulls should be to blame, would have been a really really good springbok
@ nortierd:
People will want the guy who can win or lose games… but whoever the springbok coach is who selects those players will not last very long.
@MB
Yes, Vermaak just started settling, but then everyone was screaming that Piet van Zyl is the new flavor of the month.
There we must blame the Bulls for not having the foresight and getting carried away with blowing all their money on juniors, instead of securing Jano.
I love it when Sarel does something spectacular, but he can do that when the Cheetahs play a NZ team hell bent on playing an open game, it won’t happen in a test.
FdP is tried and tested and so is Ruan, and from all the younger and uncapped scrum halves currently playing, I would select Reinach to join the group and learn.
@ nortierd:
Selfs klein faf de klerk, maar nou tel sy groote ook seker teen hom ek dink regtig ons kan bele in daai outjie, hy gaan n goeie koop wees vir een van die groot unies in die volgende twee jaar.
@449
Of, gaan hy soos Van Zyl die flavor of the month wees?
Dis makliker vir n onbekende speler om weg te kom met iets, tot die opposisie jou begin bestudeer.
Dis wat die spelers wat jaar in en jaar uit goed speel spesiaal maak.
Mense raak vinnig opgewonde oor n nuwe speler wat in sy eerste seisoen uit staan, maar jy moet vir baie seisoene kan uitstaan.
Pollard verlede jaar in die CC was nie baie goed nie, Bulle bestuur hom goed, gee hom hier en daar n kans en nou begin hy groei.
Sover het hy n fantastiese JWC en sal n baie beter CC he die jaar, sal baie beter lyk in die SR volgende jaar en dalk net saam gaan WB toe.
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