Springboks (15) 27 / 38 (21) All Blacks (Final Score)
The South African Springboks and New Zealand All Blacks did battle in The Rugby Championship at
Ellis Park, Johannesburg at 17:00 SA Time (15:00 GMT).
This was the live match discussion Article.
The match was broadcast LIVE on SuperSport 1, SHD & M-Net on TV in SA.
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Scorers:
Springboks:
- Penalties – Morné Steyn (1), Beauden Barrett (1)
- Drop Goals – 0
- Tries – Bryan Habana (2), Willie le Roux (1), Jean de Villiers (1)
- Conversions – Morné Steyn (2)
All Blacks:
- Penalties – 0
- Drop Goals – 0
- Tries – Ben Smith (1), Liam Messam (2), Beauden Barrett (1), Kieran Read (1)
- Conversions – Aaron Cruden (3, Beauden Barrett (2)
Teams:
South Africa: 15 Zane Kirchner, 14 Willie le Roux, 13 JJ Engelbrechtn, 12 Jean de Villiers (Captain), 11 Bryan Habana, 10 Morné Steyn, 9 Fourie du Preez, 8 Duane Vermeulen, 7 Willem Alberts, 6 Francois Louw, 5 Juandré Kruger, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Jannie du Plessis, 2 Bismarck du Plessis, 1 Tendai Mtawarira.
Replacements: 16 Adriaan Strauss, 17 Gurthrö Steenkamp, 18 Coenie Oosthuizen, 19 Franco van der Merwe, 20 Siya Kolisi, 21 Ruan Pienaar, 22 Pat Lambie, 23 Jan Serfontein.
New Zealand: 15 Israel Dagg, 14 Ben Smith, 13 Conrad Smith, 12 Ma’a Nonu, 11 Julian Savea, 10 Aaron Cruden, 9 Aaron Smith, 8 Kieran Read, 7 Richie McCaw (Captain), 6 Liam Messam, 5 Samuel Whitelock, 4 Brodie Retallick, 3 Charlie Faumuina, 2 Andrew Hore, 1 Tony Woodcock.
Replacements: 16 Dane Coles, 17 Wyatt Crockett, 18 Ben Franks, 19 Steven Luatua, 20 Sam Cane, 21 Tawera Kerr-Barlow, 22 Beauden Barrett, 23 Charles Piutau.
Date: Saturday 5 October 2013
Kick-off: 17:00 SA Time (15:00 GMT)
Venue: Ellis Park, Johannesburg
Expected weather conditions: It’s spring on the Highveld, the beautiful month of October. The weather is expected to be sunny and clear with a high of 26 Degrees C, dropping to 13 Degrees C.
Referee: Nigel Owens (Wales)
Assistant Referees: John Lacey (Ireland), Greg Garner (England)
TMO: Graham Hughes (England)
All Blacks get and deserve their Trophy… pity about what happened by Poite in New Zealand… but they came and won here too
Shame no one is even All Blacks after lifting the trophy.
330 @ Timothy Bornman:
Bokke can only learn from that… THAT attitude is the right one to have
Awesome game, really proud of the boks, the Kiwi’s are just too good, to beat them we have to make very few mistakes.
334 @ MacroBull:
Yip, the execution will have to impove from hereon in towards the next World Cup in 2015.
The massive All Blacks experience inside their ranks is worth it’s weight in gold
@ GBS:
We as SAFA’s had this idea that after we got a raw deal in NZ that we are a better team. And the fact is still that we are some distance behind the All Blacks.
The big difference is they perform like that week in and week out. We performed 2 games in this whole Championship. The home game vs the Pumas and the Wallaby game down under. Even last week in CPT we did not look like the no 1 team in the world.
We are not consistent. We are all over the place.
I actually expected a much more defensive game from both sides, expected a much lower-scoring game.
I do not think there are teams in the world at present to match or come close to these 2 sides.
337 @ Timothy Bornman:
Little things which can be rectified…. errors need to be cut out quite a bit more
Not every day that ANY side scores 4 tries against the All Blacks.
Afbreekpunte het hul ons ore aangesit. HM sal meer yster moet byvoeg, Juandre het dit nie en ook nie Franco nie. Weet nie hoe speel Bakkies en Danie daar in Europa nie, maar kort ‘n paar manne wat saam met Flip en Eben kan roteer.
Duane was skitterend, Louw bietjie stil.
341 @ bidibidibok:
Franco was nie sleg nie, Juandré Kruger was die swakste Bok vandag.
The Springboks who were outstanding today, was Eben Etzebeth, Siya Kolisi, Duane Vermeulen, Jean de Villiers, Bryan Habana (before injury) and Zane Kirchner.
Naas hulle noem nou die verkeerde tyd wat die Du Plessis opgestuur het. Daardie fout en die drie voor halftyd het ons gesink.
Maar al die foute het gekom omdat ons werklik gegaan het vir die bonuspunt wen en daarvoor geluk aan die bokke.
As ons net moes gewen het, sou ons hierdie game gevat het, want ons sou baie meer veilig en vas gespeel het.
Francois Louw, Bismarck, Beast, Fourie du Preez were all also good… maybe not as those I mentioned before, but good enough
En Willie
343 @ grootblousmile:And Willie Le Roux
344 @ bidibidibok:
BiDiBiDi, hoekom het jy WEER registreer… 1 van jou 2 profiles moet delete word. as dit ‘n password was wat jy vergeet het, dan hou ons die ou ene… ek sal vir jou ‘n password mail. Buitendien, hierdie nuwe profile van jou het nie jou regte naam en van in nie.
Praat met my… nou!
346 @ bidibidibok:
347 @ Just For Kicks:
Flip, sorry… yip he was outstanding too
348: skuus meneer, maar my oorspronklike email is deur gmail vernietig sonder dat ek iets gedoen het. So kanselleer asb die ou een dan gaan ek voor met hierdie nuwe een, is dit reg so ?
Het jy nou eers agtergekom wie ek is, my nie eers bietjie gemis nie ?
350 @ bidibidibok:
Nee, ek het vermoed dis jy… en die feit dat jy NET Afrikaans praat het die knoop geurgehaak.
OK, ek gaan die ou ene vernietig en jou regte naam en van insit.
So, deur watter spelers kan die huidige bokgroep in die toekoms verbeter word ?
351: eish, so maklik wat ek myself weggee, ai.
352 @ bidibidibok:
Ou profiel vernietig.
No 5 slot kan verbeter, vaskopstut en sy reserwe diepte, en dalk kan Morné Steyn volgende jaar met Goosen vervang word. Buitesenter is nog nie reg nie, daar is baie ruimte vir verbetering daar.
353 @ bidibidibok:
Elke ou het ‘n skryfstyl en ‘n “aanlyn persoonlikheid”, dis nie so moeilik om die mense te ken, herken en te ontleed nie. Tegnies kon ek seker ook gaan kyk het, was nog nooit egter nodig nie… ons is mos ‘n gemeenskap hier wat minstens omgee.
Ja dankie GBS, gesels altyd lekker hier.
I think Zane Kirchner performed bloody well in this Championship, certainly silenced a number of detractors. SP Marias shows promise for the future as does one or 2 more… forget about Andries Coetzee or Jurgen Visser though, the sooner the better.
Willie le Roux did well… a couple of mistakes still that he needs to cut out, but he’s OK, so 14 is relatively sorted.
At no 13 there is big room for improvement.
Jean de Villiers at No 12 has had a fabulous year and Jan Serfontein covers well there.
At left wing old Bryan Habana has been a stalwart, but he will be in France and we need someone to step in and eventually take over from him.
Morné Steyn has clearly been the best flyhalf in SA in 2013, but going forward Johan Goosen and one or 2 more need to be groomed into taking over the helm.
At scrumhalf there is a lot of work to do… we need Fourie du Preez back in SA, Ruan Pienaar needs to be farmed out and hopefully Piet van Zyl, Sarel Pretorius and a few others step up and knock hard on the door.
At No 8, Duane Vermeulen is the man in the saddle… and he plays hard. Pierre Spies can be put out to pasture and a youngster like Arno Botha can be groomed for the future to cover No 8 and Blindside.
At Blindside I am happy with Willem Alberts and Siya Kolisi.
At No 6 Openside Francois Louw is good, we need one more, come back Heinrich Brussow… we need you. Jaco Kriel at the Lions shows huge promise.
No 5 Lock is a problem, Juandré Kruger is not making the grade consistently. Pieter-Steph du Toit is neither here nor there just yet, Flip is not the total answer… here I would move Eben Etzebeth to No 5 Lock and we can groom a hard No 4… and / or use Bakkies Botha or Flip van der Merwe.
No 3 Tighthead is still a problem, Jannie du Plessis does an OK job, Coenie is no tighthead… time for Lourens Adriaanse and a few other candidates to step up and get some chances.
At hooker we have the best 2 hookers in the world already… no problem.
At Loosehead prop, Beast and Coenie could do the job and a youngster like Morné Mellet or Trevor Nyakane and maybe one or 2 others are not too far off.
Congrats All Blacks.
Still think we let in 3 soft tries. We have to work on our defence. Also said when Meyer took off Bissie and Jannie it was a massive mistake. The players themselves should have stayed on there for another few minutes. It was clear Andries Struass never wanted to come on right there and then. They players knew well they would probably scrum them over the line there. Instead we change our front row. Too many errors we still have to work on. The kicking out on the full by Zane as well led to them getting a eventual try. We cut down on the errors we can be a whole lot better and not just a bit a LOT better. Kruger and Franco not up to this test level I am afraid. We need now to start Psdt on the eoyt. There we will still have Flip as well.
Ag, just not too be tonight. We simply can’t make that many mistakes against a quality side.
We need to try and win it next year. Hoping.
So who do we have that might tour on the eoyt that are not with the Boks now.
JPP we know for sure he will tour. Fransie Steyn is back in training he could tour. Psdt for sure will tour and not only tour start a game on this eoyt as well. He probably should have been on the bench tonight. If Alberts is injured Meyer surely has to look for like for like replacement. Kolisi was good when he came on but really like for like for Alberts is Deysel. Though Meyer will call up Marcell Coetzee I think as he has been with the Boks this whole RC.
Just disappointed tonight. We did have chances and just never took them. Pity Willie never got that last try. And if we left our front row on longer we probably would have got another try there. Fourie kicking on their line instead of giving the ball back, there as well I thought we would have got a try. Too many missed chances I think.
Anyhow now for more CC and the eoyt. However, this was the game I wanted us to win the most. Have to wait another long year before we can get another chance.
Future candidates taking age and ext into account. So let look a team after 2015. Some of these player can be brought into the mix even now.
1. Coenie, Nyakane, Mellet, Kitshoff
2. Scarra
3. THIS A PROBLEM POSITION IN SA.
4/5. Etsebeth, Pieter Steph, Willemse, Hattingh
6,7,8. Here we are rich, so it would not be fair to name anyone.
9. Schreuder, Reinach, Groom, Van Zyl
10. Coleman, Dimitri, Boshoff, Zeilinga, Pollard, Goosen(I wont even consider him, he plays one game a season and is then injured)
11/14. Rhule, Kolbe, Van den Heever, Volmink
12/13. De Allende, JJ, Serfontein
15. Boshoff, SP, Coetzee, Lambie
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