Yes, I know it was the second stringers; it was a team full of young players; some of the players haven’t played for 4 weeks and were just a little of the boil; the team came back well and could have won had we landed all our kicks but let’s stop the damn excuses.
This game demonstrated exactly what is wrong with Springbok rugby. There is firstly a huge gap between our A-team and our second stingers. So stop this infuriating tendency to think some sort of young star is going to sort our problems. What huge difference did the Beast make when he came on?
Our backline play is in the second place terminally ill. Thirdly, we don’t know what to do with the damn ball once we have it and we are therefore just too one dimensional. The only thing we can do is power it up with the big forwards or maul of the lineouts. Apart from that we have nothing.
Our biggest problem –is there any of the frontline nations that is worse than us- is our total inability to control our ball at the breakdowns. It was extremely annoying to watch and our lack of precision, structure, organization culminating in poor ball control bordered on pathetic. Players like Lambie, and Jantjies will never be able to play to their full potential if we can’t improve this facet of our game. This is by far our biggest problem; our game is not on par with the rest of the world when it comes to the breakdowns. This is main reason why the players don’t back themselves to run with the ball and why we stick to set piece rugby.
We lost this game, the one against Scotland and came last in the tri-nations because of this exact same problem namely an absolute inability to string phases together; control our ball and keep the ball in hand.
Fifthly, our defense was shown up once again. Nonu went through –hallo Strauss- the midfield like there was no defense.
For the Hougaard fans. I am sorry but McLeod is in another class when it comes to scrumhalf play. He made an immediate difference with swifter clean out, better option taking and bringing more variation on attack. In the end it was the Sharks combinations that kicked in and nearly won the match for us.
Lastly, we were yet again unable to put in two good performances in a row. It shouts to the heavens that we have a coaching problem. We only play well when we are with our backs against the wall and when the players are massively psyched-up. We lacked leadership, structure, precision and urgency on the field against the Barbarians.
I’ve noticed over the last week some strong support –including Morné du Plessis- for PdV to stay on as coach after the splendid performance against England. Well everything I wrote so far –my seven points- has to do with coaching:
- Gap between A and B players
- Terminally ill backline play
- Don’t know what to do with the ball
- Inability to control the ball at the tackle area
- Poor defense
- Sharks combinations pulling us back into the game
- Our inability to string two good performances in a row.
This is hard for me to say because as you can see from my blogs on the history of Springbok rugby I am an enthusiastic and staunch Springbok supporter but the type of rugby we are playing is getting just a bit too much for me. It is becoming increasingly harder to explain to my 9 and 10 year old boys why they need to support the Springboks. My support is not based on the quality of the rugby anymore but on habit, sense of obligation or something else that I have difficulty putting in word.
o shut up . like anybody gives a damn about the baa baas. Its played in the spirit of fun.
We are one dimensional cos boere rugby coaches young players that way. Ask Morne Steyn.
we beat ireland then wales so theres your 2 good performances in a row idiot.
Yyyyaaaaaaaaaawwwwwnnnnnnnn!
Don’t read too much in a Baabaas game guys. Am actually surprised how many people were interested in yesterday’s match.
Personally I preffered to help my wife in the garden, and unlike the Boks, scored some decent points by doing just that!
PS : I hate gardening….
Wez, you are an idiot and obviously a low class WP supporter.
@ weswp aaag ou deur die k@k issie die woord vir jou nie
Wez,I hope you get banned for being such a tit. Rugby talk does not need clowns like yourself.
Wezwp wrote:
It is not about winning or losing or the spirit of the game it is about the quality of the play. We were shit -unable to maintain posssion; damn I can’t remembner EVER seeing a rugby team so pathetic in that regard- and if you can’t see that you either in denial or know very little about rugby. Wales and Ireland were not two performances in a row. We should have lost against Wales we were just abolutely horrible. Stop looking at te scoreboard and look at what is happening on the field.
Rugbyprof wrote:
Maybe you should watch the game before you express opinion about it.
Ok, seeing that we’re taliking absolute twaddle here, I thought we lost really well…..
die grootste probleem met die bokke is die afrigter.die bokke kan eenvouding nie meer mas opkom met die nar nie.
Even if we did slot those 3 missed kicks at goal, we still would have lost as Mitchell also missed 2 kicks.
That said, taken into consideration the team that was put together, they did not do to bad, but I do agree that there is a huge gap between the A team and B-team.
Much ado about nothing gents.
Chill
What happened when i was away.
Look boys if you take any serious notice to this result … well i did not even watch it. My in laws had their 59th anniversary earlier this week and i decided to surprise them with a visit. just grabbed what is necessary and went.
Back to the rugby, this was at best our 3rd team, what could we gain from this game, honestly i think nothing. These games were great in the ’90s. With 12-15 tests played per year this is a nothing game, SARU must stop this games in Springbok jerseys, play them in a pink, purple, grey , whatever jersey the can conjure up, but not in a Green and Gold.
Super.I’m suprised by your response,you are the first to say that you want the Boks to win every game. Even though this was our C side the performance was not acceptable. You would expect professional rugby players to catch the ball.tackle,organise a defensive line and maybe just maybe catch the ball and off load it in the tackle. I dont mind that we lost,but what I do mind is that our performance was shocking and am embarrassment to Bok rugby.
Die ergste is dat dit was nie die barbarians se beste span nie,die clubs wou nie hulle spelers vir die game vrystel nie.ons agterlyn was soos heel jaar vrot..volgende jaar val ons standaard nog verder met snor wat n uit diepte is en duidelik geen trots het in die groen en goud nie.
Calm down gents… specially you WezWP, I don’t take kindly to your insults on the Author of the Article.
To the rest, kindly keep it together fellas, in the true Rugby-Talk spirit… if you see someone like WezWP taking liberties, mail me…. I’ll remove the offending comments and possibly the offender.
Now that you’ve answered the offending gentleman, I cannot really remove the offending comments, can I… because your remaining comments would be shouting abuse at comments not there anymore.
Anyway, have a wonderful evening… see you in the morning.
On the weekend’s rugby…. McLook is right… it reeks of an uncoached team, who do not value possession and who simply do not play the breakdowns and ground-ball situations well.
That’s been our biggest hamper in 2010….
GBS@18. That was my main point namely the pattern that exist. Seven things most of which was present througout the year; which points to poor coaching. In the second half it started to go a little better when all the Sharks -especially McLeod- came on and started to combine all Sharks fashion.
We can say it’s nothing because it was a B-team against the Barbarians and that we shouldn’t read much in it. Well it’s a pattern that has been there the whole year so maybe it is time that something gets done about it.
19@ McLook:
EVERY Bokke match is important enough not to misvalue the jersey, therefore a win in each game, whether it be an official Test, a BaaBaas game or even a midweek game… must be valued, must be won.
There is no excuse for poor coaching and no excuses for not doing the basics well.
The faulty pattern you’re talking about has been patently apparent and unforgivable… and seems to be getting worse.
Anyway brother, it is late here… speak again in the morning.
superBul wrote:
I agree with your sentiment here. Get rid of these games or if we do play it make it a S15/CC combo team. Players who based on CC and S15 performances and who are not yet Springboks. This will make it less of an embaressment for SA rugby if we play as poorly as we did in the first half.
Winston wrote:
In fact me too, 😆 i have no clue what happened in the game so it might have been a good idea to zip it.
But reading what Mallet said about the game how would you respond to his assessment. Read the new post and answer him there.
@ Piet visagie:
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Piet as die Barbarians die bestes kon kry sou dit mos die beste wereld span wees ne. So een of 2,3,sou dalk van die Springbokke gekom het ne. Nou kyk as jy so span kies en hulle oefen n week saam dan dink ek geen ander Nasionale span, AB’s inkluis sal regtig kan huishou met hulle nie, ne.
Maar voeg nou nog by hoeveel ontwrigting die Bok span gehad het voor die game, het Werner nie eers Donderdag aangesluit nie, arme Jantjies het seker 2 maande terug in n wedstryd gespeel. So vir my was dit Saterdag twee aanmekaar getimmerde spanne en lyk my die een met die meeste sterre het dit net ,net gewen. Waarom die groot geween?
Dit is in die konteks wat ek na die game kyk.
NB.
Die All Blacks sou met n vol span natuurlik beter gevaar het ….vat Carter en McCaw en Mills, en , en, uit en speel hulle dan teen die Baabaas, ek wonder of dit so maklik sou wees.
superBul@23 wrote:
Dit was een aanmekaar getimmerde span naamlik die Baabaas en ‘n span vol springbokke wat nou al vier weke saam oefen. Die Baabaas het nie eenkeer hulle bal in kontak verloor nie. Die bokke daarinteen kon in die eerste helfte nie eenkeer die bal vir langer as drie fases hou nie. Dit was onmenslik irriterend. Elke keer as ons die bal kry dan verloor ons dit in die eerste, tweede of derde “tackle”. Bleddie hel dit is “basics” hoekom kan die baabaas dit reg doen en ons nie. Elke keer as ons die bal verloor dan sien ons dit eers weer na hulle gescore het. Dit waaroor die geween gaan ons was absolute horibaal dubbel K senter A in die eerste helfte.
Dit was GEEN net-net gewennnery deur die BaaBaas nie…. dit was ‘n klinkende oorwinning, hulle was baie beter as die FlenterBokke.
Man, daai 1ste 25 minute het ons Flenterbokke rape gekak… die telling was naderhand 19 / 3.
As die BaaBaas voet op die pedaal gehou het kon dit skandalig met epiese proporsies beginne raak het.
A disappointing end to a disappointing season.
The team looked as if they hadn’t practiced together at all!
Kanko did his normal disappearing trick in a green jersey. Is he capable of taking the step up?
I agree with the writer, McLeod looked really good when he came on.
Anton van Zyl proved just how good a player he can be. Maybe that’s why I voted for him to be the EOYT captain in the RT survey earlier this year.
It certainly raised a kakhuis vol more questions than it answered.
I see a frustrating 2011 for us as Bok supporters.
bloubull.die ergste snor se verskooning van spelers is moeg.wat van strauss,jacobs, lambie,jantjie? hulle het nie vrek baie international rugby gespeel nie.hoekom het die aussies en allblack nie moeg gelyk nie?daardie nonu het ons senters se naam lekker gat gemaak..maar nou ja volgens snor is ons spelers was moeg.
@ grootblousmile:
Ek het gese ek het niks gekyk nie. Ek het ook gese gaan kyk wat Mallet se oor die game.
“Mallett believes Saturday’s game was one of contrasting halves, with his team outstanding in the first and then forced to defend in the second once South Africa started playing to their strengths”
I saw your response on the thread after i started this post GBS, so dont bother answering me. I am not qualified to talk about this game. Finnish en klaar.
28@ superBul:
Kyk maar of jy die game gekyk kan kry… sodat jy ook soos ons, goed de bliksem in kan wees… hehehe
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