In recent weeks I said my bit about referees. I came across this video made by an Australian no-less which I think makes for some fascinating viewing.
The Boks and how they play is one issue, the refereeing is a completely different issue.
No words necessary to explain this.
Agree Morne no words necesary but i will repeat this.
You call this a contest?
One team although not red hot must play with one hand tied behind their backs and the other look like super heroes because of that. All that beautiful All Black game went sour because the contest was killed.
Ek was sommer vies nadat ek die video gisteraand gekyk het. Dis een ding om teen n better span te verloor, maar n ander as jy verloor as die ref damm oogklappe aanhet.
I don’t think the Bokke would have won, but the scoreline would have been a lot closer if the ref had been a lot stricter on the AB’s. And then BP’s could have been in play, and a 100% home leg record could have made the finish to the 3N a lot more exciting. As it is, its now over as a contest. Now is the a good time to rest top players and blood some youngsters, but that wont happen.
@ bos_otter:
Die feit is dat die All Blacks al van 1996 baie goeie wen rekord opgebou het. Baie games kon wel anderkant toe geswaai het weens skeidregter beslissings maar die manne het almal aan hul lippe. Wat n AB aan raak “turns to gold” hulle het tereg soos Victor gese het “untouchables” geword.
Hoe draai mens dit om. Wel as hulle sulke beslissings teen hulle kry soos ons sal jy n geween en n gekners van tande hoor. Hulle sal die wereld omkeer. Dit gaan drastiese wereld orde omeswaai kos om hulle weer aarde toe te laat kom.
Ek dink net as ons die SH los en die 6 Nasies join sal hulle hul greep op wereld rugby verloor.
@ superBul:Ek stem Super, maar ek blameer die refs, nie die All Blacks of enige ander span nie. Elke span sal hulle luck push so ver as moontlik…ons dit dit ook.
Wat my omkrap, en miskien is ek net paranoid, is dat dit voel of die hele damm wereld n grudge het teen die bokke. Wanneer ons wen, dan kla Hendy soos n klein biatch dat ons nie mooi rugby speel nie….next thing you know, dan verander hulle die reels om die ander spanne te pas. Ander ding is, ek beskou suid afikaanse komentators as die mees unbiased ouens in die wereld. Hlle lewer terugvoer van wat op die veld gebeur…nie soos die ander lande se komentators wat heeltyd kit-pick en hul persoonlike oppinies gee, en goed oor en oor op tv replay, veral as die bokke iets verkeerd doen nie. Hulle ignoreer heel gemaklik enige foute wat hulle eie spanne maak en wys mper nooit die replays nie.Ek haat die oorseese media….hulle is lief daarvoor om die dag onder die eend se gat uit te ruk
But what really surprised me was the origin of this clip. Australian. But would they have been so charitable had it been Aus vs SA?
I recon we’ve bitched and moaned enough about referees and cheats now… time to fix what’s wrong on Springbok side and show the farkers what we’re made of.
Time for some intraspection, some fresh ideas, some innovation, some rejuvination!
Last thing I want is for R-T to become known as the bitchy blog and for it’s bitchy stance towards referees and other teams.
There won’t be another Article which bitches and moans about Tri-Nations referees or about certain teams or players cheating. I think this was about the 6th one on the topic, if not more….
Let’s move on….
… Oh and “gaan mal” with the comments on this Article, seeing as this is the last opportunity on this topic…..
@ grootblousmile: …yes mother!!!
🙂
bos_otter @ 9
😀 hehehehe
@ grootblousmile: GBS…relax man!! This is all part of a natural process…we are after all only human.
What are the stages of the loss process?
Stage 1: Denial
Stage 2: Bargaining
Stage 3: Anger
Stage 4: Despair
Stage 5: Acceptance
I think it’s safe to say that a lot of us is still at stage 3-4…stage 5 soon to follow!! When this happens people will start analysing events and hopefully come out stronger.
Your reply in bold makes you sound like a dictator 🙂
@ Ashley: Hey Ash.How’s things this lovelly morning?
@ grootblousmile:
Has the media tribunal reached this site already?
11@ bos_otter:
Nee flok, ek het nou genoeg gehad… dan moet ek maar diktatoriaal wees… dis reg so.
Sien, dis die verskil tussen my en SARU, ek het balle en KAN sê genoeg is genoeg!
ok, just to add a bit of fuel to a dying fire
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as far as i remember the contents of the “get the japies” email (1999) was never revealed by sarugby, was it?
as far as i know only bits and pieces found there way into the media.
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i’ve had a look around on the internet this morning, but
didnt find much on the subject other than an article written by dan retief for superrugby in 2002 under the heading “a question of bias”
in this article he says the following:
…
“There was some confirmation of (these) feelings of persecution in the infamous e-gate incident when mail between the REFEREES’ CHIEFS of Australia and New Zealand ended up in Sarfu’s offices. In it they referred to South Africans as “the Japies” – a term intended to be as insulting as us calling the Aussies a nation of convicts – and there were alarming references to not informing South Africa of decisions and the correspondence allegedly ended with the statement: “Let’s get the Japies.”
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now
does anyone have a full account of that email please? i cant remember it ever being revealed in full
but
then i might have missed it (or even forgotten that i actually saw it)
o and goooooooooooooodmorning everyone
bosotter @ 12
well, thank you bru
@ grootblousmile: GBS…is safe to say you are still on stage 4
🙂
Joke net hoor.
#14
keo, ek dink jy’t op verkeerde site ingelog!!
13@ Morné:
Sorry Morné, I do not follow…. nobody has contacted us….
What I’m saying is that there’s so much focus on one side of the coin (the bitching and moaning part), that the flipside (fixing what’s wrong within Bokke camp) has disappeared totally from focus.
My nature is one of pro-active reaction, not reactive bitching… I see the glass as half full and not as half empty and in someone else’s hands….
If SARU feels aggrieved, take a strong stance, show some brass cahoenies, quietly, outside of Media circles… and BLIKSEM the IRB and SANZAR and the REFEREES… but do it quietly….
Because by now we sound too much like that “Little Klikbekkie” in class who runs to teacher or mommy at every opportunity…
@ grootblousmile:
GBS,
This, and many similar stories are currently the topic in rugby. Peter de Villiers’ hearing is today, Rugby365 the biggest rugby news website in the world ran a similar story, showing exactly the same video above..
If it pisses you off, why read it?
If you are going to start censoring posts or articles, that is your perogative as this is your site.
Personally, I think it is over the top and dof.
Mediums such as this gives people a platform to debate issues in rugby, and that includes all issues. It also includes different angles on issues.
The above is an issue in its subject, it is also a different view on the issue as it has video evidence.
If you want to censor what your readers can and cannot debate taking the above mentioned post of mine into consideration or because it is a personal issue or irritation to you, then count me out mate.
gbs @ 19
sooooooooooooo
if i understand you correctly
you
DONT want us to remind you how you “ran to the teacher or mommy at every opportunity”? 😀
@ grootblousmile:GBS…ek stem saam, maar onelukkig is die “fixing what’s wrong within Bokke camp” nie ons resposibility nie. Wat stel jy voor, ons almal stuur n video vir PDV met ons idea van hoe hulle die probleme moet oplos? Ek kan vesrtaan dat jy gatvol raak met mense wat heeltyd moan…ons almal doen op n sekere stadium, maar dit is al wat ons supporters kan doen…moan,cheer en support. Ons kan almal se wat ons voel gedoen moet word om dinge te fix, maar dit gaan geen duik in die SARU blik maak nie…
gbs @ 20
you shouldve been my twin
i
was about to write the exact response … word for word!! 😀
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on a serious note … well said!!
oh
and #23 was for morné
not
gbs!! 😳
ag demmit…ek dink ek is besig om n dubbel ken te kry…..arghhhh. Inige iemand n idea hoe oefen mens so iets weg?
#24
ma’ djys nog altyd welkom inni familie
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da ka djy di swartskaap inni familie wies!! 😆
#26
ag flok
#26 was nou vi gbs!!
ai my koppie raas v’oggend!!
@ Morné:Morne, I think GBS is more upset with some of our responses to your article, not the article as such. You only linked a video that’s currently available on youtube…nothing much in your article suggest you blame or bitch over the refs/teams
GBS…ek sal ophou moan, ek belowe…ek wil nie soos n ou vrou met n nat broek klink nie 🙂
@ Ashley:
Ash…you’re all over the place bru 🙂 Like a bad rash 🙂
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