Dear Mr Administrator and fellow readers
After reading (frequently) and commenting (rarely) on Rugby-talk, I felt tasked to submit an article again after the last thrashing we got from the AB’s and the reaction to it.
A blog site is supposed have readers and participants from both sided of the coin, which means your side and my side. Or his side and her side, or their side and our side, or the amateurs’ side and the professional’s side, and lastly the opposition’s side and the supporter’s side. If we do not have that, support it, embrace it and challenge those trying to meddle with it, this blog site will also loose support.
What is nice about this site is that every opinion is liked, challenged fairly, we take the piss at each other, we even open articles demanding that you take the piss. But it also states quite clearly in those instances that we should refrain from making certain insults on articles where the idea is to have normal arguments to and fro on the topic. What I have seen the past 24 hours from well known member on this site has prompted me to go take an hour break from the PC to get my emotions in order, otherwise I would have added to the injury caused and started insulting users.
Ok, my side of the coin first since I am writing the article. I advocated another loss this weekend due to mainly two issues: firstly the top referees in the world are from the southern hemisphere (SH) and should be the only referees allowed to blow the whistle during the 3N. That means the referees blowing during the S14 should be on duty. Secondly the Boks are playing a stupid game plan not suiting the current rules, they are playing with 5 men on the park who should either not be there or play in different positions. Enough said about that, I think most of us agree on these two points. The three incidents which imho changed the game on Saturday were discussed, argued, disagreed with, agreed with, hell even more than after the first game! For the record I am talking about the bizarre yellow card, the bizarre non-yellow cards and the high tackle on Zane. My opinion on these three is in line with most bloggers on the site.
Guess what my point is? It is my opinion only, and if I differ from you on my opinion, please accept that we differ. If you differ from me and want to make a stronger point about differing, I actually appreciate the challenge and will continue looking at your opinion, comparing it with mine. But fellow readers, if you start being sexist towards me, act like a chauvinist towards me, personally insult me because you differ from me, shame on you. I would probably ignore you because I would in our difference on opinion, try and maintain the moral high ground. Oh and you should consider two actions then:
One, apologize for blowing off steam and stepping across an inexcusable line, or two, consider yourself part of the lesser quality bloggers from a site where most of us comes from…..and go back there please, because there they keep on insulting each other, making sexist remarks, act like chauvinists.
If we want to keep bloggers from other nations on this site, we absolutely have to accept the fact that it is only an opinion from another blogger which differs, not fact. And if you as the reader feel you want to deck someone due to difference on opinion, mmm, shame on you again mate. Their opinions are valued due to the other side of the coin they bring. If you cannot embrace that fact, follow step two please.
Back to rugby, come the next number of weeks in the 3N Piet Snor has got very little else to do but:
One, make the right positional choices. Two, fire both his backline and forwards coach. Three, motivate his senior players again. Four, play the Bulls game plan in the S14 final, because regardless of which provincial team I support, THAT game plan won the S14.
Do you think Piet Snor will do it? I reckon if he can get two out of the four done, we have a chance, else sorry guys, a whole year of international rugby has been lost and next year will probably be too late for retaining the RWC.
Obviously I missed something.
Perhaps for the better too…
Mmmmmm coming from a male chauvinist himself?? Me thinks a bit biased here…..
@ weber: why?
@ Morné:
go read through http://www.rugby-talk.com/?p=15380&cpage=1#comment-110033
ps in CT, I cannot agree more.
On behalf of Rugby-Talk, I apologise on behalf of those who have overstepped, I hope they are big enough to offer an unqualified apology too.
Let me make this clear… I WILL NOT allow this web site to degenerate into mudslinging and chasing people away…
@ grootblousmile:
Thanks, appreciated
Peter D please get yourself a new support team after this tri nation’s.
@ Wezwp:
wezwp, a very good suggestion by one of the previous authors was that the Stormers backline coach and the Bulls forwards coach should be called to help Piet Snor. I think that should happen as soon as they get back from Australia.
I say send off Muir to go coach the Spears please. They are a totally new setup and Muir seems to do better in forming inexperienced players than coaching experienced players. I don’t knw what to do with G Gold, just know that in the time he coached the Stormers they did not get far…
ok who is PS??
😆
i too have missed much lol
9@ sharky_forever:
ps in CT has been around long man… he’s even on the Bloggers Photo gallery….
Personally, I think we need another Fight Club Thread, where we can go bossies and irritate the hell out of each other without getting angry!
@ sharky_forever:
just not in CT currently, sitting in mid Africa…. 🙁
PS, I just have one problem with what you said there.
You want PDV to make these changes, do you not think the best change would be PDV?
look its the combination of coaching staff
snorre is the man incharge and responsible however
@ biltongbek:
agree but we all know that is not going to happen soon….
I wanted either Heyneke Meyer from the Bulls or Alistair Coetzee from the Stormers a few years ago.
@ biltongbek:
I have heard in the past some talk about a future coach maybe being Paul True due to his successes on the 7’s scene, but i think there is a vast difference between 7’s and the 15 man game, so that would NOT be a good thing.
Getting the successful S14 coaches should be a simple answer, but that is also not good due to the past moans and groans (rightly earned in some instances) about provincialism in choices.
The coach should be like it is today, not provincial bound but full time. But their teams could use as assistants specialist coaches like Os du Randt, forwards and backline, defensive etc. So which province is willing to let go of a Ludeke, a Coetzee, a backline coach, a forwards coach? And that while it is the same coaching team who is knee-deep in the competitive Curry Cup season?
Ps, then the answer is simple. Get an overseas coach, I always respected Laurie Mains, don’t know what he does these days but anyone is better than what is going arond in the Springbok camp.
I do however agree with you Gary Gold and Dick Muir should go and coach Vodacom.
ps i feel heineke meyer is the man for the job , add a top forwards coach and backline coach and we should be fine
My personal choice would be Allistair Coetzee, as he knows these players and has been with them throughout Jake’s tenure, add to that the innovative Rassie Erasmus and you will see a different revitalised Springbok team.
19@ biltongbek:
Ooooo flok, nie Rassie nie dankie… Alistair ja, die man beindruk my deesdae.
WAt’s fout met Rassie GBS, kyk wat het hy met die Cheetahs gedoen.
@ ps in CT:
Why don’t you mention my name in the article? I have never had a problem “loosing face”. In fact I have a “thick face”(Since we are using Chinese terms). Who is sexist or the chauvinist that you refer to in your article? You think because you don’t mention name then its ok. You are guilty of the exact thing that so despises you. That makes you a hypocrite. How can I respect your opinion?
22@ rugbybal:
Aggenee man, hier gaat ons al weer…. kom ons gaan verdomp aan in vrede.
Severe case of double standards me thinks……
Or trying to compensate for something that went wrong……
I rest my case!
😉
21@ biltongbek:
Wat het Rassie met die Cheetahs gedoen of bereik? Disco ligte geflikker? Curriebekers gewen terwyl die Bokke nie by sy opponentspanne was nie?
… en die Stormers en WP het eers begin shape toe Rassie Director of Rugby by WP geword het en die coaching aan Alistair oorgelaat het.
Neewat, daar is beter as Disco Rassie.
What did i say so wrong?
26@ superBul:
Jy het Rugby_Princess beledig en indirek weggejaag, dit was verkeerd, dit kort ‘n verskoning!
Grootblousmile, so bietjie van die “subject” af, is dit nie veronderstel om GrootwitSmile te wees nie?
Anyway, wie sal jy dan as alternatief wil kies, en ook hoekom.
28@ biltongbek:
Hoekom WIT??
Ek is mos ‘n Bul man, en die Bulle is Blou!
Ek was ‘n man wat wou gehad het Heyneke Meyer moet Bokke coach word…. nou kyk ek maar net die ding so en sê verwyder tog maar net daai Sirkusleier wat die Lions verder opgedonner het en verwyder vir Gary Glitter, nog nooit van die man se gedoentes gehou nie.
Snorrie moet maar aangaan jong, net sy bek beteuel en beter assistente kry, die spelers hou van Snorrie en dis tog maar die hooftaak van Hoof-afrigter… om die manne te man-manage en laat goeie Assitente meeste van die coaching doen.
Ek het lankal om verskonning gevra nog in daai selfde thread , dat ek harsh was. Maar waar het ek haar persoonlik beledig. Ek het van die NZlanders gepraat wat die game sissie maak daarom die wegbeweeg na sokker
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