Wales (3) 12 / 6 (3) Springboks (Final Score)
Wales and the South African Springboks did battle in the End Of Year Tours at
Millennium stadium, Cardiff, Wales at 16:30 SA Time (14:30 BST & GMT).
This was the live match discussion Article.
The match was broadcast LIVE on SuperSport 1 & M-Net on TV in SA.
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Take Note that the England vs Australia game was at the same time slot as the Wales vs South Africa game, therefore we concentrated on the Wales vs South Africa game, with SCORE UPDATES at the Bottom of the Article on the England vs Australia game.
Scorers:
Wales:
- Penalties – Leigh Halfpenny (4)
- Drop Goals – 0
- Tries – 0
- Conversions – 0
Springboks:
- Penalties – Pat Lambie (2)
- Drop Goals – 0
- Tries – 0
- Conversions – 0
Teams:
Wales |
South African Springboks |
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Expected weather: The roof will be closed, as always, but it will be damp underfoot and even though the surface has improved, it still cuts up at times. High of 12°C and low of 7°C
Referee: John Lacey (Ireland)
Assistant Referees: George Clancy (Ireland), Pascal Gauzère (France)
TMO: Graham Hughes (England)
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England (13) 26 / 17 (3) Wallabies (Final Score)
England and the Australian Wallabies did battle in the End Of Year Tours at
Twickenham Stadium, London, England at 16:30 SA Time (14:30 BST & GMT).
This was the live match discussion Article.
The match was broadcast LIVE on SuperSport 6 & CSN on TV in SA.
@ Angostura:
I agree with your team, except I would have Morne there and also leave the door open for Mapoe
Angostura wrote:
The flanker, Uzair Cassiem, who originates from the W-Cape, but plays for the Pumas has a surname that could originally have been Indian, Pakistani or from some other Asian geographical area. On appearance he looks as though he could be Indian or of mixed race.
Some of the Coloured folk here in KZN also have Indian blood flowing in their veins, & I wouldn’t be surprised if some of such play rugby, especially if they attend schools of a rugby culture. Some pockets of the Eastern Cape are also like that. And of course rugby is a much more broadly played & supported sport in the E-Cape than in KZN.
Be that as it may, I doubt Uzair Cassiem is pure Indian – not that it matters.
OK, ciao out.
It’s just strange that there are so few or none with all the good rugby schools in KZN
MacroBok wrote:
Wait till SANZAR starts closing the money tap
MacroBok wrote:
You might indeed find some talent
But they may also force you to play Jantjies instead of Lambie or Pollard?
Or Oupa instead of Louw, Jaco Kriel or Marcell
@ Victoriabok:
Money…
Gosh black players are going to be a HOT commodity in the next two years.
That is why the Bulls have started moving in players from the Western/Eastern Cape from school already.
I think the Bulls had to dock a LOT of money for Marvin Orie, who the Lions desperately wanted.
@ Victoriabok:
Meant to say
It’s just strange that there are so few players of Indian descent with all the good rugby schools in KZN
MacroBok wrote:
Is hy donkerswart of net plein swart? 😈
@ Victoriabok:
Yep it is those short term drawbacks that might end up killing the game… or at least the professionalism.
IF these unions are forced to play these expensive black players.
Could they just transform the teams into clubs in a seperate union? @ Victoriabok:
haha ek weet net hys speel slot
638…
Sorry ek wou my engelse post delete, want al stig die unies n privaat unie sal the regering net n wet maak waarby hulle moet by.
MacroBok wrote:
They should have privatised rugby, unions and SARU, like North American sports where you buy the franchise and the NBA, NFL and NHL are private businesses
They could have had a rich guy like Motsepe buy a franchise, and built an all Black team, much like Boudjellal did with Toulon
@ Victoriabok:
The difference is that there is no way the government would stand for that. They would make laws in parliament to either force the 50/50 law or ban “racist” institutes.
The only possible loophole would be to form a team in Europe, and import school players
@ MacroBok:
import/export
MacroBok wrote:
Ironic when they are the ones focused on race
@ Victoriabok:
The most shocking thing is that The transformation plan is there to increase the black player base, at the expense of not only white but ALSO coloured players.
There was another pie chart (I dont know ehre these stats come from)
Coloured players will also be whittled down.
Attachment:
@ MacroBok:
They don’t care about results or unintended consequences
Only optics
Like with the 2010 World Cup, they had that tall white guy in the team, him and his family were in all the papers before the WC
But did he play one minute?
If our rugby gets so weak no-one watches anymore and the SANZAR money disappears?
If the IRB, sorry WR bans us because of their doing?
It’s still a win for them
ah now I understand where the 60% black african comes from… 60% of 50%
my post 606
Black African projections is (page 32)
2015 24%
2016 35%
2017 40%
2018 50%
2019 60%
Generic Black projections is (page 41)
2015 30%(4.5 players average per competition) of which 24%(1) must be Black
2016 34%(5 players average per competition) of which 35%(2) must be black
2017 40%(6 players)…of which 40%(2.4 player average per competition) must be black
2018 45%(6.75 average per competition) of which the average black players must be 50%(3.4 players average in the competition)
2019 50%(7.5 average per competition) of which 30%(4.5 average black players per competition.
On field at all times.
2019 50%(7.5 average per competition) of which 60*%(4.5 average black players per competition.
MacroBok wrote:
Hougie’s arm can qualify as 90% black with all the ink on it
He’s a generic scrumhalf, plays only 34% of the time
@ Victoriabok:
ok so hougie is 90% black of which he is 34 generic.
That qualifies for about 0.3% of our quota so far 😀
MacroBok wrote:
Farkit, how’s Ludeke going to understand it, who’s going to explain 7.5 players to him?
If you play your 7.5 black players plus Vetgat Frans Steyn at 1.5 player, will you be allowed to have only 14 players on the field? 😛
@ Victoriabok:
haha its the average… so in super rugby there are 16 games. He can choose to play 7 P’soC in the first 8 games and them he has to play 8 players of colour in the other 8 games.
MacroBok wrote:
The Kiwi and Aussie franchise coaches pick the best players in all positions
And so do Hansen
And we wonder why we can’t beat the All Blacks?
@ Victoriabok:
Unfortanutely we cant use that excuse yet
MacroBok wrote:
Yet
We pick the best players from Shady Pines retirement home, and the rest from Besige Bytjie Kleuterskool
And Hougie from “Crack Hoes ‘R us”
superBul wrote:
Never thought I’d say I miss Pienaar
Even at his most average he’s still better than Hougie
MacroBok wrote:
What about a player from another country like Kennedy Tsimba, would he qualify as a Black African?
Must he be a Black South African?
What about a Samoan player like Paul Perez?
Generic Black by appearance?
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