South Africa and New Zealand did battle in the 3rd T20 International at St George’s Park, Port Elizabeth at 14:30 SA Time on Wednesday 26 December 2012.
This was the Live Game Article for the match.
South Africa posted a mighty 179 / 6 in their allotted 20 overs.
New Zealand started the chase well but after Martin Guptill and Brendan McCullum departed, it was all over bar the shouting.
South Africa won comfortably, by 33 runs and with only 1 New Zealand wicket left standing.
South Africa: 179 / 6 (20 overs)
New Zealand: 146 / 9 (20 overs)
Match over
- New Zealand in South Africa T20I Series – 3rd T20I
- T20I no. 297 | 2012/13 season
- Played at St George’s Park, Port Elizabeth
- 26 December 2012 (20-over match)
| South Africa innings (20 overs maximum) | R | M | B | 4s | 6s | SR | ||
| H Davids | c Anderson b McClenaghan | 68 | 67 | 51 | 7 | 2 | 133.33 | |
| F du Plessis* | b Hira | 1 | 5 | 9 | 0 | 0 | 11.11 | |
| Q de Kock† | c Anderson b McClenaghan | 2 | 12 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 50.00 | |
| JL Ontong | c Anderson b Franklin | 48 | 39 | 30 | 1 | 3 | 160.00 | |
| DA Miller | c Anderson b Bracewell | 28 | 27 | 15 | 4 | 0 | 186.66 | |
| F Behardien | c McClenaghan b Bracewell | 22 | 19 | 11 | 2 | 1 | 200.00 | |
| RK Kleinveldt | not out | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | - | |
| Extras | (lb 4, w 6) | 10 | ||||||
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| Total | (6 wickets; 20 overs; 86 mins) | 179 | (8.95 runs per over) | |||||
| Did not bat RJ Peterson, R McLaren, AM Phangiso, M Morkel |
| Fall of wickets 1-2 (du Plessis, 1.5 ov), 2-26 (de Kock, 4.4 ov), 3-115 (Ontong, 14.5 ov), 4-135 (Davids, 16.3 ov), 5-179 (Miller, 19.5 ov), 6-179 (Behardien, 19.6 ov) |
| Bowling | O | M | R | W | Econ | |||
| MJ McClenaghan | 4 | 0 | 24 | 2 | 6.00 | (2w) | ||
| RM Hira | 4 | 1 | 24 | 1 | 6.00 | |||
| NL McCullum | 3 | 0 | 27 | 0 | 9.00 | |||
| JEC Franklin | 3 | 0 | 30 | 1 | 10.00 | |||
| DAJ Bracewell | 3 | 0 | 35 | 2 | 11.66 | (1w) | ||
| JDS Neesham | 3 | 0 | 35 | 0 | 11.66 | (3w) |
| New Zealand innings (target: 180 runs from 20 overs) | R | M | B | 4s | 6s | SR | ||
| RJ Nicol | lbw b McLaren | 5 | 2 | 3 | 1 | 0 | 166.66 | |
| MJ Guptill | c Peterson b Phangiso | 24 | 26 | 20 | 3 | 1 | 120.00 | |
| BB McCullum*† | c Ontong b Phangiso | 25 | 31 | 22 | 3 | 1 | 113.63 | |
| C Munro | c †de Kock b McLaren | 3 | 14 | 10 | 0 | 0 | 30.00 | |
| JEC Franklin | c Ontong b Phangiso | 16 | 17 | 13 | 1 | 1 | 123.07 | |
| JDS Neesham | c Morkel b Peterson | 12 | 15 | 10 | 2 | 0 | 120.00 | |
| NL McCullum | c Peterson b McLaren | 17 | 23 | 14 | 2 | 0 | 121.42 | |
| Corey J Anderson | run out (McLaren) | 12 | 16 | 9 | 1 | 0 | 133.33 | |
| DAJ Bracewell | not out | 15 | 9 | 2 | 0 | 166.66 | ||
| RM Hira | c Ontong b Kleinveldt | 12 | 11 | 9 | 2 | 0 | 133.33 | |
| MJ McClenaghan | not out | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 100.00 | ||
| Extras | (lb 1, w 3) | 4 | ||||||
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| Total | (9 wickets; 20 overs) | 146 | (7.30 runs per over) | |||||
| Fall of wickets 1-6 (Nicol, 0.4 ov), 2-53 (Guptill, 6.6 ov), 3-56 (BB McCullum, 8.3 ov), 4-60 (Munro, 9.4 ov), 5-84 (Franklin, 12.3 ov), 6-87 (Neesham, 13.1 ov), 7-116 (Anderson, 16.4 ov), 8-116 (NL McCullum, 16.5 ov), 9-137 (Hira, 19.2 ov) |
| Bowling | O | M | R | W | Econ | |||
| R McLaren | 4 | 0 | 25 | 3 | 6.25 | (1w) | ||
| RJ Peterson | 3 | 0 | 24 | 1 | 8.00 | |||
| M Morkel | 4 | 0 | 37 | 0 | 9.25 | (1w) | ||
| RK Kleinveldt | 4 | 0 | 25 | 1 | 6.25 | (1w) | ||
| AM Phangiso | 4 | 0 | 25 | 3 | 6.25 | |||
| JL Ontong | 1 | 0 | 9 | 0 | 9.00 |
| Match details |
| Toss South Africa, who chose to bat |
| Player of the match tba |
| Umpires JD Cloete and AT Holdstock TV umpire S George Match referee AJ Pycroft (Zimbabwe) Reserve umpire BG Jerling |
| Match notes |
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December 26th, 2012 at 13:53 SAST
OK, so I’ve woken from my Christmas and pre-Christmas slumber.
I have not put up a Christmas Greetings video… why… because I’ve been plain bone idle.
Will put up a combined Christmas and Newyear’s Video message when I get time.
Who’s joining me for the Cricket today?
December 26th, 2012 at 14:02 SAST
Blomme won the toss… and chose to bat first
December 26th, 2012 at 14:18 SAST
Is Graham Smith out yet?
December 26th, 2012 at 14:19 SAST
Hello GBS? Did you have a good Xmas?
December 26th, 2012 at 14:21 SAST
4 @ Loosehead:
Yes thanks Loskoppie… and you and yours?
December 26th, 2012 at 14:24 SAST
5 @ grootblousmile: yeah,good thanks. I got a kindle.
Going to braai some steak later.
December 26th, 2012 at 14:24 SAST
Hello all trust you all had a good Christmas, GO PROTEAS!
December 26th, 2012 at 14:25 SAST
I see Levi has been left out, also no Steyn.
December 26th, 2012 at 14:27 SAST
SA Team: H Davids, F du Plessis*, Q de Kock†, F Behardien, DA Miller, RJ Peterson, JL Ontong, R McLaren, RK Kleinveldt, AM Phangiso, M Morkel – so Davids and Faf to open according to that
December 26th, 2012 at 14:29 SAST
Anthems done and dusted
December 26th, 2012 at 14:31 SAST
Hello Muppets , hehehe hope everyone had a great Xmas day.
Now for some cricket and lets hope out team has fixed the problem area’s
December 26th, 2012 at 14:34 SAST
OK, we’re A for away… and a shout for LBW in the 1st over… turned down
December 26th, 2012 at 14:37 SAST
O donner… Faf bowled…
SA 2 / 1 after 1.5 overs
December 26th, 2012 at 14:40 SAST
dagse Rudi onse Burgermeeater van BakkenjanPan
December 26th, 2012 at 14:41 SAST
Faf goes early. Jeez it looks tough out there for batting. Why they play a T20 in PE??? A pitch suited for spinners. Not going to see the 6′s and 4′s out there, which most of the crowd come to see no doubt.
December 26th, 2012 at 14:46 SAST
14 @ Sharks_forever:
Hello Tjarkie.
By the way, I put your Looseforwards Article back on Draft, all the Locks articles not done yet.
9 @ Bullscot:
Hello Bully!
15 @ Puma:
Hello Oompie!
December 26th, 2012 at 14:48 SAST
@ grootblousmile:
I saw bro no problem
December 26th, 2012 at 14:49 SAST
2nd Wicket down… Quinton de Kock goes
December 26th, 2012 at 14:50 SAST
Both Wickets to fall due to seriously stupid shots, hell they should have a little look first
December 26th, 2012 at 15:03 SAST
We are struggling to make runs, this is not good as we need to make atleast 150 runs
December 26th, 2012 at 15:09 SAST
SA 63 / 2 after 10 overs
December 26th, 2012 at 15:27 SAST
SA 113 / 2 after 14.3 overs
December 26th, 2012 at 15:27 SAST
Ontong & Davids doing stellar work now
December 26th, 2012 at 15:28 SAST
Ontong persihes on 48 off 30 balls
SA 115 / 3 after 14.5 overs
December 26th, 2012 at 15:29 SAST
Wonder how much will be enough here? 140 or more? They chased us down well the other night.
December 26th, 2012 at 15:32 SAST
Little Davids now the one to see to it that SA gets a decent total…
December 26th, 2012 at 15:33 SAST
I think if we get around 175 we should be OK’ish…
December 26th, 2012 at 15:34 SAST
SA 131 / 3 after 16 overs….
4 overs (24 balls) to go in the innings
December 26th, 2012 at 15:35 SAST
Come on fellas.. post a handsome total for us, please
December 26th, 2012 at 15:38 SAST
Henry Davids persihes on 68
SA 135 / 4 after 16.3 overs
December 26th, 2012 at 15:40 SAST
170 is still on if they concentrate
December 26th, 2012 at 15:44 SAST
SA 147 / 4 after 18 overs
December 26th, 2012 at 15:44 SAST
SA need 2 great overs now…..
December 26th, 2012 at 15:47 SAST
150 up for SA as 2 successive wides are bowled
December 26th, 2012 at 15:48 SAST
Ah, a 4 and a 6 too!
December 26th, 2012 at 15:51 SAST
SA 165 / 4 after 19 overs
Bad bowling by Neesham… 3 wides in the over
December 26th, 2012 at 15:51 SAST
One last great over.. boys!
December 26th, 2012 at 15:53 SAST
2 x 4 off the 1st 2 balls… 4 balls to go.
SA 173 / 4 off 19.2 overs
December 26th, 2012 at 15:54 SAST
OK, the 175 is up, 3 balls to go
December 26th, 2012 at 15:54 SAST
4
December 26th, 2012 at 15:55 SAST
Wicket
SA 179 / 5, 1 ball to go
December 26th, 2012 at 15:58 SAST
SA 179 / 6, with 2 wickets falling in the last 2 balls
New Zealand needs 180 to win, that is 9 runs per over.
December 26th, 2012 at 16:04 SAST
Much better after a poor start, the guys took the singles and ran a lot of 2′s excellent. the boys have an excellent target to protect
December 26th, 2012 at 16:09 SAST
43 @ Sharks_forever:
Bulls Locks & Southern Kings locks are up… now we’re only waiting for Kickers to put the Stormers Locks up.
Southern Kings are in the poo with only Sykes & Bulbring really any quality in the locks department.
December 26th, 2012 at 16:09 SAST
Our Bowlers have to really make sure their bowling lines are good as well as the lengths. Also vary the pace.
Our spinners should also have a say if they bowl well
December 26th, 2012 at 16:09 SAST
45 @ Sharks_forever:
We need to get Guptill quickly this time….
December 26th, 2012 at 16:11 SAST
@ grootblousmile
Eish ya they in big shit, Sykes is a good lock yes but if he is injured??? no depth is a huge problem and a rugby match is won by the tight 5, they not great in that department.
December 26th, 2012 at 16:12 SAST
Wicket!
Nicol GONE!
December 26th, 2012 at 16:13 SAST
@ grootblousmile:
Yeah we do. Nicol out, shit ball by Maclaren and then a wicket, he seriously needs to up his consistency when he bowls
December 26th, 2012 at 16:14 SAST
We need Guptill now fast, also MaCullum is a threat
December 26th, 2012 at 16:15 SAST
NZ 7 / 1 after the 1st over
December 26th, 2012 at 16:15 SAST
McCullum that is
December 26th, 2012 at 16:18 SAST
8 / 1 after 2 overs, just a single from the over
December 26th, 2012 at 16:18 SAST
Morne Morkel now the bowler… 1st ball spot on!
December 26th, 2012 at 16:19 SAST
2nd Ball too much on leg by Morkel… 2 runs
December 26th, 2012 at 16:20 SAST
Then too wide, and there’s a 4
December 26th, 2012 at 16:22 SAST
NZ 14 / 1 after 3 overs
Only superb fielding by Davids prevented a 4 there
December 26th, 2012 at 16:22 SAST
Guptill… 4
December 26th, 2012 at 16:23 SAST
Guptill gets a single and goes to 1000 career T20 runs
December 26th, 2012 at 16:24 SAST
Big 6 by McCullum
December 26th, 2012 at 16:25 SAST
NZ 29 / 1 after 4 overs
We MUST get these 2 quickly, otherwise it’s tickets
December 26th, 2012 at 16:27 SAST
Our Bowling is poor and these 2 have now got the BIT between the teeth, we in trouble here
December 26th, 2012 at 16:28 SAST
They off to a better start than us, well for now it seems. Though we finished very well.
December 26th, 2012 at 16:29 SAST
9 From the 5th over
NZ 38 / 1 after 5 overs
December 26th, 2012 at 16:30 SAST
62 @ Sharks_forever:
I feel we could be in trouble. They playing better than us at this stage.
December 26th, 2012 at 16:30 SAST
63 @ Puma:
Oompie, you had a good Christmas?
No more knee damage?
Hehehe
December 26th, 2012 at 16:32 SAST
They’re getting runs far too easily
December 26th, 2012 at 16:33 SAST
NZ 45 / 1 after 6 overs.
That’s a great start for them!
December 26th, 2012 at 16:33 SAST
66 @ grootblousmile:
Had a great Christmas boet. Did you have a good one too?
NO more knee damage….hehehehe.
December 26th, 2012 at 16:34 SAST
Phangiso on and goes for a 6, 1st ball
December 26th, 2012 at 16:35 SAST
69 @ Puma:
Yip, had a good one… ate too much as per usual
December 26th, 2012 at 16:36 SAST
Huge wicket Guptill out
December 26th, 2012 at 16:36 SAST
Wicket!
Guptill goes off a bad ball actually.
NZ 53 / 2 after 7 overs
December 26th, 2012 at 16:37 SAST
Guptill gone. Big wicket too.
Go Proteas!
December 26th, 2012 at 16:41 SAST
71 @ grootblousmile:
Think we all over eat this time of year. Need to exercise more to work it off…….hahaha.
December 26th, 2012 at 16:42 SAST
NZ 55 / 2 after 8 overs
Only 2 runs form the 8th over
December 26th, 2012 at 16:44 SAST
McCullum OUT!
NZ 56 / 3
December 26th, 2012 at 16:44 SAST
NOw McCullum out
December 26th, 2012 at 16:44 SAST
Phangiso gets his 2nd,
December 26th, 2012 at 16:45 SAST
Now the Keeee Weeeee’s in groot Kakkas
December 26th, 2012 at 16:46 SAST
NZ 56/3 now. Think that could be them done. PE not always the best place to bat 2nd no matter which format is being played here.
December 26th, 2012 at 16:46 SAST
NZ 59 / 3 after 9 overs
December 26th, 2012 at 16:48 SAST
Run rate required already over 11 needed per over
December 26th, 2012 at 16:48 SAST
79 @ Sharks_forever:
Don’t watch too much domestic cricket so have not seen Phangiso before. Well done to him getting those two wickets.
December 26th, 2012 at 16:50 SAST
Wicket!
NZ 60 / 4 after 9.4 overs
December 26th, 2012 at 16:53 SAST
NZ 64 / 4 after 10 overs
December 26th, 2012 at 16:55 SAST
NZ 71 / 4 off 11 overs
December 26th, 2012 at 16:56 SAST
Run rate now over 12 an over
December 26th, 2012 at 16:57 SAST
Ontong’s 1st ball goes for a 6
December 26th, 2012 at 16:59 SAST
NZ 80 / 4 off 12 overs
December 26th, 2012 at 17:01 SAST
Wicket… Franklin goes
NZ 84 / 5 after 12.3 overs
December 26th, 2012 at 17:02 SAST
90 @ grootblousmile:
Doubt they will catch us this time gbs. Where do we stand in the world in this format after this series? I think we are number one.
December 26th, 2012 at 17:05 SAST
MOrkel takes a blinder
December 26th, 2012 at 17:05 SAST
92 @ Puma:
No, not Number 1…. I think we were 4th or something.
Wicket!
NZ 87 / 6
December 26th, 2012 at 17:09 SAST
Afternoon Gentlemen, how do I find you all today?
Hope you have had a great Christmas in the sun.. Rain lashing down here rather cold and the fire lit!
December 26th, 2012 at 17:09 SAST
NZ 95 / 6 after 14 overs
Run rate is getting pretty steep for them now
December 26th, 2012 at 17:13 SAST
New Zealand 100 up…. only 5.1 overs to go
December 26th, 2012 at 17:14 SAST
NZ 105 / 6 after 15 overs
December 26th, 2012 at 17:15 SAST
75 required off 30 balls.
That is 15 runs per over
December 26th, 2012 at 17:19 SAST
NZ 114 / 6 after 16 overs
They are too far adrift now, no chance!
December 26th, 2012 at 17:20 SAST
@ grootblousmile:
Seasons Greetings to you GBS, sorry you are too busy to greet an old friend!!
Have a lovely New Year anyway.
December 26th, 2012 at 17:23 SAST
Wicket
Anderson gone
NZ 116 / 7
December 26th, 2012 at 17:25 SAST
And another wicket… NZ 116 / 8
December 26th, 2012 at 17:28 SAST
Question now is… can we bowl them out.
That would be the final coup!
December 26th, 2012 at 17:30 SAST
NZ 123 / 8 after 18 overs
Only 2 overs remain
December 26th, 2012 at 17:31 SAST
Hehehe, they require 28.5 per over…
December 26th, 2012 at 17:32 SAST
9 x 6 could do it for them… haha
December 26th, 2012 at 17:33 SAST
49 Needed off 8 balls… not even 6′s could do it for them now
December 26th, 2012 at 17:34 SAST
NZ 136 / 8 after 19 overs
December 26th, 2012 at 17:38 SAST
… and the 9th wicket falls, 4 balls to go
December 26th, 2012 at 17:43 SAST
So, South Africa wins this one comfortably, by 33 runs
December 26th, 2012 at 17:45 SAST
Good win, and it is trophy time
December 26th, 2012 at 17:45 SAST
South Africa also takes the T20 Series by 2 / 1
However, we should NEVER have lost the 2nd T20 match, that was an abomination.
December 26th, 2012 at 17:48 SAST
In the Tests, SA should be supreme too… New Zealand’s batsmen are just not in the same league, apart from Martin Guptill and Brendan McCullum.
Also, our bowling attack is better, has a much harder edge to it, so on all counts we should take that too.
December 26th, 2012 at 17:49 SAST
In T20 games one could still pox a win with 2 good batsmen, but in any of the longer formats THAT should not happen.
December 26th, 2012 at 17:51 SAST
Henry Davids gets the Man Of The Match for his 68
December 26th, 2012 at 17:53 SAST
Faf du Plessis wins the Series in his FIRST run in a Series as capatin… well done Faf, you’ve been great.
December 26th, 2012 at 17:53 SAST
Well done Proteas. We win the T20 series.
Much more looking forward to the tests.
December 26th, 2012 at 17:54 SAST
117 @ grootblousmile:
Agree well done to Faf.
December 26th, 2012 at 17:56 SAST
119 @ Puma:
He’s led from the front, OK he did not get runs today but in the other 2 contributed bloody well.
December 26th, 2012 at 17:58 SAST
Now to be serious… this was not even our strongest T20 side… AB de Villiers and Dale Steyn was not even here… so too Amla, Smith, Kallis
December 26th, 2012 at 18:00 SAST
120 @ grootblousmile:
Since the Oz tour he has been really good with the bat. Not going to say much if a batsman gets our quick in this format. Here is is luck sometimes as you just going for everything.
Only sports24 and ourselves have a thread on the cricket. Though we done a live commentary here. This has to be the best site not only for live games in Rugby but the cricket too. Well done gbs very impressive with running of this site.
December 26th, 2012 at 18:02 SAST
be back in a few
December 26th, 2012 at 18:02 SAST
121 @ grootblousmile:
This is most definitely not our strongest side. So them winning this series tells us what good shape our cricket is in.
I wish we had England touring here now. Now that would generate HUGE interest especially in the tests coming up.
December 26th, 2012 at 18:04 SAST
122 @ Puma:
I’ve actually gone and bought the Domain names and rights of the following as well:
http://www.cricket-talk.co.za
http://www.soccer-talk.co.za
So who knows, one day we might be a conglomerate of Sport sites, covering Rugby, Cricket, Soccer…. and maybe Motorsport and Golf too
December 26th, 2012 at 18:06 SAST
Gbs what happened to the Loose Forwards article? We had one up this morning commented on it then…. WEG so vinnig? Waar is dit nou?
December 26th, 2012 at 18:08 SAST
126 @ Puma:
I’ve put it back on Draft Mode, told Tjarkie so earlier… I still had to put the Bulls & Southern Kings locks on… and Kickers still has to put the Stormers locks on, before we start with the Looseforwards.
December 26th, 2012 at 18:11 SAST
125 @ grootblousmile:
Not that much into Motorsports though some are. Would get into Athletics as I really enjoy that sport too. For that matter enjoy the tennis as well, then only the Grand Slams none of the rest. Rugby the best of of the lot though… 
Cricket is my 2nd best sport then the rest.
I think that is brilliant. We could cover almost anything here. Just need some knowledgeable Soccer heads here as I am most definitely not one of them. I know more about golf…….
December 26th, 2012 at 18:13 SAST
127 @ grootblousmile:
Okay thought you were the gremlin that took it off……
December 26th, 2012 at 18:16 SAST
128 @ Puma:
I know shit-all about soccer… and I would have to get an equally dedicated dude to run the full-time Soccer or Cricket sites… I simply can’t do all.
Maybe I should build up an Advertising leg for the sports sites, then EMPLOY a dedicated soccer guru to handle that one… and also a dedicated Cricket dude, to handle and run that one… and earn money off those in the process.
December 26th, 2012 at 18:19 SAST
130 @ grootblousmile:
You should as you do a heck of a lot of work here. Get something out of it for sure boet.
December 26th, 2012 at 18:21 SAST
131 @ Puma:
You know of course that you’ll be one of our Sharks Authors in 2013… you promised!
December 26th, 2012 at 18:23 SAST
132 @ grootblousmile:
I will do the team of the week for S15 as we don’t have that here, that kind of thing I said I would do. That should be easy enough…. lol.
I am useless at it. Sharky does a expert job at doing it……..
December 26th, 2012 at 18:24 SAST
133 @ Puma:
Oh fark, it will be full of Sharks players every week… hehehe
December 26th, 2012 at 18:25 SAST
132 @ grootblousmile:
Another thing other sites to Rating of players after each game, I DON’T like it, just not fair on players as everyone but everyone has their own view and then there are about 8 different ratings about for a player that week. So for me personally don’t agree with that. Team of the week would be great as we don’t have to have a rating next to the player. Rating players with a score for me is a cheap skate thing to do to a player. End of story.
December 26th, 2012 at 18:26 SAST
134 @ grootblousmile:
Probably………………..
December 26th, 2012 at 18:30 SAST
134 @ grootblousmile:
I have thought of a way to do it. We will get the regular bloggers here that watch all the games to send me their team of the week. Say 5 of us, none speak to the other who they think are their team of the week. Then from that list each player that has the most selected for that position gets selected as to the team of the week. That way it will be fair who gets onto team of the week. It should never be one persons choice. Best way to do it.
December 26th, 2012 at 18:34 SAST
@ Puma:
pooms
December 26th, 2012 at 18:37 SAST
@ grootblousmile:
Pooms atleast the team of the week is a start
@ Puma:
@ Puma:
As for the player ratings? Maybe we should have it where Rudi, Myself, For Kicks and cheetah4neva discuss each match and then do a unanimous rating.???
December 26th, 2012 at 18:37 SAST
@ Puma:
135
i love ratings, i can build a story around it, it usually expose the Sharkies, hahaha
Hi guys i missed another sports game, this clinging sound of the “tille” GBS calls it is adictive
December 26th, 2012 at 18:38 SAST
. Puma bro?? you know of course Lambie will always be in the team of the week?? @ Puma:
December 26th, 2012 at 18:40 SAST
Blogging on R-T has made Puma and Me tough bloggers
we just ignore you other okes chuning our Sharks 
December 26th, 2012 at 18:43 SAST
139 @ Sharks_forever:
I just don’t like rating a player. Think it is unfair on a player. Some sites have a player at 9 while other give 6 it is just hit and miss really.
Team of the week is a far better. Making a team from all 15 teams is excellent. Need one supporter from each franchise to select their team of the week, then we see who has most votes for each position that week and that is how they will ge nominated for team of the week.
gbs
Cheetah4Eva
Sharks one week then me the next….
Stormersboy one week then JFK the next
For Kings have no idea at all. Our Lion friend will have to do that one.
Remember we could only do a saffa team of the week or a overall from all teams. I think overall from all teams is the way to go. So it has to be someone that watches all the games. Unless some don’t have time to watch all the games, then we just do a saffa team of the week as we all watch all the saffa teams playing.
December 26th, 2012 at 18:44 SAST
139 @ Sharks_forever:
I think closer to the start of Super Rugby, we will know which bloggers have time available and will be able to see all the games.
Then we could easlily compile a panel to send their Team of the week to Oompie Puma to publish.
Now the excercise and huge task would be to teach Oompie Puma how to publish articles AND how to use his EDIT keys before submitting the article…. hehehe
December 26th, 2012 at 18:45 SAST
Shark – fornever and pooms, we had it here before , in fact well organized with a spreadsheet and all the thing is , people who pick have their own favorites and dont like it if their players dont make it.
Discussing a player after a game is also something some dont like. Remember we must stand by him… bla bla bla
Another thing i miss is real analyses of the game , McLook is still trying his utmost best to explain his views, most other here just stick to their “my province/franchise is the best” seldom do they analyze the players flaws etc.
December 26th, 2012 at 18:46 SAST
141 @ Sharks_forever:
AND Frans Steyn and JPP also Keegan …………. 
Sommer all the Sharkies every week……… LOL.
Oh absolutely! Know it already…..
December 26th, 2012 at 18:48 SAST
145 @ superBul:
Ou Wille Bees… het jy darem ook paar af-dae gehad nou oor die Feesseisoen?
Of werk jy ELKE dag?
December 26th, 2012 at 18:49 SAST
@ Puma:
pooms player rating and team of the week is kinda the same thing, by putting a player in your team of the week it is your point of view, someone else will for example pick a different team to what you would?
It seriously does not matter what team of the week you put or what ratings people will always differ, If you see rugby 365′s team of the week?? they have 5 Journo’s selecting their team and then form a unanimous team
December 26th, 2012 at 18:51 SAST
superBul wrote:
with the above in mind Puma , why do you feel it is unfair to criticize a player? He is well trained , gets paid to do his job. Do you feel the same way about the plumber who farks up your house.
December 26th, 2012 at 18:51 SAST
146 @ Puma:
We would HAVE TO teach you how to blog AND watch at the same time though…. hehehe
December 26th, 2012 at 18:52 SAST
145 @ superBul:
McLook is excellent in giving a analysis of the game. Then doubt he will write about all the games. Well the saffa games he just may, then it is a lot of work that.
The thing there will be 5 of us selecting a team of the week. We don’t discuss it AT all between each other. We send in our team of the week and from there the player that gets most votes in that position gets onto the team of that week. We can moan if our favourite player of that week in that position is not there, but that will be it. Nothing we can do if he is not selected by most. Fair if 5 votes and none know which the other are selecting. That is fair and square. Then if we moan after so be it. Lambie though will be there, first up even if sick………..
December 26th, 2012 at 18:54 SAST
149 @ superBul:
I give my GRANITE guy a 3 out of 10…. hehehe
His craftmanship is tops, but he has now taken money from me and has not installed the rest of my stuff.
He eventually phoned me last week and promised to install the rest before the 10th of January….
December 26th, 2012 at 18:54 SAST
@ grootblousmile:
AF wat is dit, nee jong die besigheid is jonk ek werk dat dit bars
Gister was dit so 42 grade heel middag, entoe kry ons die wonderlikste reen, n hele 80mm, en raai wat toe werk ek sommer weer met nuwe geesdrif. Maar ja iewers moet ek bietjie rus , sal probeer na die Mango seisoen.
December 26th, 2012 at 18:56 SAST
150 @ grootblousmile:
I am not the fastest either 
That has to be done……hehehe. I do blog while watching but have to move damn fast to my study to say something about that minute of the game. By that time I know it is a bit late in saying something, but I always do as you know……………
I need to use my laptop I know, but just too much strain on my neck. Will HAVE to get a tv in my study. I do use my laptop sometimes though.
December 26th, 2012 at 18:57 SAST
153 @ superBul:
Na die Mango seisoen is dit Perske seisoen, dan druiwe… dan die volgende.
Die swart mense het ‘n gesegde…. die werk raak nie klaar nie, die man raak klaar.
December 26th, 2012 at 18:59 SAST
@ grootblousmile:
December 26th, 2012 at 18:59 SAST
@ Puma:
151
who on Earth would pick any Spears player for their team, damm you must be joking in asking a Lions supporter to give them any positive rating, oohhhhh
maybe GBS would do it for them, at least he knows them better than anyone with his research for his articles.
December 26th, 2012 at 19:00 SAST
154 @ Puma:
One gets a special Notebook table, which slides over your Lounge chair, almost like that table one gets in Hospital which slides accross the bed… that might be your answer… hehehe
December 26th, 2012 at 19:01 SAST
157 @ superBul:
As long as I NEVER, EVER have to rate Luke Watson… hahaha
December 26th, 2012 at 19:01 SAST
149 @ superBul:
I do complain about quite a few players Super. I just don’t really rip them apart. Though the way it does end up like you can read on some sites it is just not on. I don’t enjoy ripping a player apart. That is not me so sorry I won’t do it. Will if we do it with decency. Then will, not the way I see it done on other sites. Hope we never become like that here. Journos do enough of it anyhow.
December 26th, 2012 at 19:02 SAST
@ grootblousmile:
155
hahaha , die sequence is hier perske, litchi, druiwe, mango avo,s ,suurlemoen, pomelo, lemoen, ….
ek is nou al so slim soos n porra
December 26th, 2012 at 19:04 SAST
158 @ grootblousmile:
istort: NOOIT boet….. 
Jeepers, that is not for me……….
December 26th, 2012 at 19:04 SAST
161 @ superBul:
En die Guav’s & Grindelsh?
Solank jy netnie soos ‘n Porra begin lyk en praat nie, is jy nog OK!
December 26th, 2012 at 19:05 SAST
@ superBul:
super is al klaar n groente gees 
December 26th, 2012 at 19:06 SAST
157 @ superBul:
I just said Lion as he blogs here a lot. Not sure who should, you could Super if you want…. 
Gbs will give them zero that is why……..
December 26th, 2012 at 19:06 SAST
@ grootblousmile:
Any ideaas re the changes yet?? or you still building courage to start ?:lol:
Als boet we gonna do an article for each team as a team in a afew weeks?? in other words an article coming out of the breakdown article’s we have done??
December 26th, 2012 at 19:07 SAST
164 @ Sharks_forever:
Yip, let’s sommer call him Carlos Gomez from now on… hehehe
December 26th, 2012 at 19:08 SAST
Ok so we give Luke Watson a -10 rating handicap
so when and if he does have a good game he will example end up with a -3 or 04 etc 
December 26th, 2012 at 19:09 SAST
152 @ grootblousmile:
If any granite installer took my money and not installed yet, I would give him a big fat 0 and that would be too much.
I would probably give myself -0 for giving him the money first before installing………
December 26th, 2012 at 19:09 SAST
Puma wrote:
i sort of agree , look by now you must know me, just think Dean. I believe any player can make a comeback.
So when i “RIP” , it is in fact his play of the day, not his person.
I will tell a Morne Steyn he kicked like a arshole and cost us a few tests this year, but i know he can do better, and i wont write him off. Thats how i feel about players.
They are not 10 year old kids , if they played bad and cost their team, they must face the music.
December 26th, 2012 at 19:11 SAST
166 @ Sharks_forever:
If you look under the Top menu on the site, under Super Rugby, 2012… you will see the Full 5 squads of 2012… so when we’re all done, I will condense all of a team’s players and put them up on the top under 2013… team by team.
We might also do an Article for each team tin total like you suggest… we’ll see.
I have not started with the design changes, that will happen from Friday onwards… to busy on the stuff in and around the house still… except for today, I did vet mooi nokkol on the house.
December 26th, 2012 at 19:11 SAST
Puma wrote:
dan gee ek weer 9 vir Luke al sit hy op die bench
December 26th, 2012 at 19:12 SAST
@ grootblousmile:
This is luigi 
the Porra from the far north, he is a onyon, potatsche, gringadelsch, Bonnansche, gwavs, grapsch 
December 26th, 2012 at 19:13 SAST
@ Sharks_forever:
die gendelchh en kwawas is ook al deur my hande, sheez maar hul raklewe is kort hier in ons hitte
December 26th, 2012 at 19:13 SAST
@ grootblousmile:
that’s fine bro,
December 26th, 2012 at 19:14 SAST
170 @ superBul:
Hey Carlos Gomez… you do veggies and salad stuff too?
December 26th, 2012 at 19:14 SAST
170 @ superBul:
Of course we should say something Super. I do all the time if a player lets his team down. I just don’t go into a frenzy and call them despicable names, like we see on many, many sites. We do our criticising with decency we get taken more seriously than if we do it in a disgraceful way.
December 26th, 2012 at 19:14 SAST
@ superBul:
eish Ya daai valley van jou is a blerrie oond
December 26th, 2012 at 19:16 SAST
169 @ Puma:
Don’t worry, ek sal nog hard op sy ballas trap…. hehehe
December 26th, 2012 at 19:16 SAST
172 @ superBul:
December 26th, 2012 at 19:17 SAST
@ Puma:
Agreed, that’s the one thing I hate and luckily it does not really happen on R-T
The personal insults there players have to endure on blogs is pathetic, If n oke has a shit match, rate him a 3 for example and say he was poor on the day,
December 26th, 2012 at 19:17 SAST
179 @ grootblousmile:
And you should….
December 26th, 2012 at 19:20 SAST
@ Puma:
177
agree, and normally one tries to stay calm, but demmit , if you lose a game by some inept performance someone must be blamed.
December 26th, 2012 at 19:24 SAST
Well this made my day , getting here in time for some opinions from my great friends
December 26th, 2012 at 19:25 SAST
If all is said i am logging out, have a great evening
December 26th, 2012 at 19:25 SAST
181 @ Sharks_forever:
Exactly that is how it should be done, not rip the poor player apart with some digusting names. I have read it on many sites. Just not great to read that. Saying a player played poor or not up it in that game, say why but not run the player down in a bad way. Just about every player has a off day or two, that happens.
Look I will be honest, I did call Meyer a ‘idiot coach’ I was so angry with his selection and game plan by the end of the RC and for letting Lambie waste away on the bench where we could have used him and probably have won in Mendoza. Anyhow all gone and dusted now. I know it was wrong and have apologised on this site for saying that. I just hardly do it. It takes a lot for me to get to that stage, I did eventually. I am okay with him now though even if we stick to the tried and tested game plan. Peter also at the start of his Bok Coaching career made me very angry but after 2009 I enjoyed him very much and supported him from then on. I never called Peter names though. I met Peter as I have said here many times, he is such a top class man and have huge respect for him. I know he said funny stuff and confused us a lot but he is such a decent person. Meyer comes across as a top class person and very decent too.
December 26th, 2012 at 19:26 SAST
So, how do you guys objectively rate the Southern Kings locks… hehehe
December 26th, 2012 at 19:27 SAST
185 @ superBul:
Nee flok… jy kannie NOU gaan pis en rus nie!
December 26th, 2012 at 19:27 SAST
183 @ superBul:
I know and we can blame the player but not trash the player in doing so.
December 26th, 2012 at 19:29 SAST
Wonder what happened to Turky… he probably received an Italian Lolita as a present for Christmas….
December 26th, 2012 at 19:29 SAST
Okay everyone. Going to watch a dvd now.
Enjoy the rest of your evening.
Catch up tomorrow.
December 26th, 2012 at 19:30 SAST
@ grootblousmile:
waaroor gaat ons nou praat?
I saw the Bulls locks, they look secure, you agree.
December 26th, 2012 at 19:30 SAST
190 @ grootblousmile:
He mostly blogs when the games are on. Otherwise hardly see him, but always here with the live games.
Okay that is me out of here for now.
Catch up tomorrow.
December 26th, 2012 at 19:31 SAST
@ grootblousmile:
190
a blow up doll?
December 26th, 2012 at 19:32 SAST
192 @ superBul:
Ten minste is ons site nog aan die gang en lewendig die tyd van die jaar.
December 26th, 2012 at 19:33 SAST
194 @ superBul:
Don’t know if he likes the blow-up stuff… hehehe
December 26th, 2012 at 19:34 SAST
Good night Puma, i must say one thing moreto you.
Last year the Sharks started late, but according to news today they are very active at the moment, some early victims reported.
December 26th, 2012 at 19:40 SAST
OK, I see evrybody bailing now… so greetings Earthlings… see you on the otherside of one night’s darkness.
December 26th, 2012 at 19:41 SAST
@ superBul: Where did you read that Super?? eish you saying we already have more injuries?? Luckily February is still far away lol
December 26th, 2012 at 19:42 SAST
OK then this is official i am also out
December 26th, 2012 at 19:47 SAST
199 @ Sharks_forever:
Yip, the rest of your hookers broke down… and your locks are’nt well either but they did’nt need to break down for us to know that… hehehe
Oh, and Fransie Steyn fell over Lambie’s ego….
December 26th, 2012 at 19:47 SAST
Well now that everyone has bailed I guess I will too lol
December 26th, 2012 at 19:48 SAST
@ grootblousmile:
